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Offline Serenity

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Re: Airbus in hail storm
« Reply #45 on: August 02, 2017, 08:53:12 AM »
If the ILS had been damaged and the windscreens were all obscured, what options would the pilot have for landing the plane?

On a side note, from watching the second half of the video, hauling people around in a jet would be a big PITA.  I'd transfer to FedEx or UPS riki-tik.

PAR down to a VERY uncomfortable tower-directed flare and rollout...

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Re: Airbus in hail storm
« Reply #46 on: August 02, 2017, 11:59:44 AM »
If the ILS had been damaged and the windscreens were all obscured, what options would the pilot have for landing the plane?

On a side note, from watching the second half of the video, hauling people around in a jet would be a big PITA.  I'd transfer to FedEx or UPS riki-tik.

If so equipped, and I assume the Airbiscuit is, an auto land.  Or, some basic pilot skills and turn it sideways to take a peak out the side window.



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Re: Airbus in hail storm
« Reply #47 on: August 05, 2017, 09:30:56 AM »
PAR down to a VERY uncomfortable tower-directed flare and rollout...

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Re: Airbus in hail storm
« Reply #48 on: August 05, 2017, 11:57:53 AM »
PAR down to a VERY uncomfortable tower-directed flare and rollout...

Tower-directed flare and rollout.....?



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Re: Airbus in hail storm
« Reply #49 on: August 05, 2017, 02:16:38 PM »
PAR down to a VERY uncomfortable tower-directed flare and rollout...

You wouldn't need tower for flare or rollout.  Radar Altimeter should give you enough info for a satisfactory (not GOOD, just satisfactory) flare, and side windows give you enough information to stay on the runway, but you will likely need a tow after rollout.  Would want a runway with plenty of extra length for a long landing, though.

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Re: Airbus in hail storm
« Reply #50 on: August 05, 2017, 02:40:02 PM »
You wouldn't need tower for flare or rollout.  Radar Altimeter should give you enough info for a satisfactory (not GOOD, just satisfactory) flare, and side windows give you enough information to stay on the runway, but you will likely need a tow after rollout.  Would want a runway with plenty of extra length for a long landing, though.

Mike

I was assuming the side windows were pretty battered too.

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Re: Airbus in hail storm
« Reply #51 on: August 05, 2017, 03:36:35 PM »
Pretty sure they could do a GPS-approach.
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Re: Airbus in hail storm
« Reply #52 on: August 06, 2017, 08:59:33 AM »
This reminds me a bit of the 747 crew in the early 90s flying over the Pacific.  They started noticing St Elmos Fire all over the nose and windscreen of the aircraft.  Then the aircraft began losing one engine at a time.  Then the visibility on the windscreen went to zero.  Then they lost all their engines.  As they were gliding to a water landing, they were able to relight all the engines.  They made it to their destination (The Phillipines or someplace like that).  The aircraft appeared to have been sandblasted.  I think they used the side windows to land.  There was zero visiblity out of the front windscreens.  Only then were they told that Mt. Pinatubo had erupted and they had been flying in increasing dense volcanic ash the farther west they flew.

I watched the Dateline NBC or 60 minutes story of the flight crew. It was fascinating.
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Re: Airbus in hail storm
« Reply #53 on: August 06, 2017, 09:07:46 AM »
iirc the plane regained engines, climbed back into the ash layer, and lost engines again!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Airways_Flight_9
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Re: Airbus in hail storm
« Reply #54 on: August 06, 2017, 06:01:57 PM »
The Canadian TV series Mayday has some programs that had hail/thunder storms as part of the reason the a/c crashed.