Planes size too small, opinions plse???

[-Tart-]

Hey Guys, Is it me or r the planes in AH just too small. I find it difficult to judge aspect whilst acm'g. I say this as a comparison too say WB's or EAW. Any u ex WB guys know what I mean? I've flown a far bit in reality(light aircraft formation stuff) & read alot of WW2 accounts " the plane filled the screen", & feel this MAY not be representitive?? Please this is not a flame only my opinion. Any comments??

[tshred]

The planes are at a 1:1 scale for realism I believe. Use the  z  key to zoom for a quick look. Use the bracket keys [ ] to adjust the amount of zoom. I mapped the z key to a button on my stick for quick zooming in and out. Works well in combat once you get used to it.

ts

[-Tart-]

Thx will try it...


-Tart-

[-duma-]

 

Originally posted by -Tart-:
read alot of WW2 accounts " the plane filled the screen"

(scratches chin) Hmmmmm...  

[Duckwing6]

it's just a matter of HOW CLOSE you are duma  

[Fluf]

I played WB for 4 years. I find the unzoomed plane size in AH to be the same. When you get close to aircraft in AH they appear really big - especially P-47s  . Next time you're on a freeway check the sizes of vehicles 600 yards ahead and I think you'll agree that AH sizing is pretty realistic. The nice thing about AH is that the animation is so smooth when you are very close to another plane (unless it is doing the evasive hula-hula spiral, the only time I see warping in AH).
Fluf

[Vulcan]

Its done intentionally.

Basically what it boils down to is that that Rooks and Bishops all have small dicks - and the planes have been scaled appropriately so they don't feel so bad.

-vlkn- in (grabs helmut and runs).

[minus]

plane size hehe so it some 1 uf u say 600 yard ee about 200 m or what ever the jug hav what win span  ? 20 or 30 m ? aso 7 time smaler like 1mm form to your nose !!
specialy go tomorowto airport to check out his dumb teori :-))
 never sin a sim where the zom and distncefactor is corect, until no stereoscop vision forget  it about realizm

[Wardog]

Ive flown WB for 5 years,plane size in general is the same..

AH does have a slight advantage with the Zoom feature. And this is only use for 1 or 2 seconds to get gunnery down and lead shot down.

And i also use Zoom in the HO so i can try to lay all shots on the cons wings  

[Andy Bush]

Let's put this into some perspective...

The P-47 has a 40' wingspan.

Most gunsights use a size measurement unit known as a 'mil'. The center dot in many sights may be one or two mils in size. Let's say the AH sight center dot is one mil in size...the P-47 wingspan would then be 40 dots wide at 1000' and 80 dots wide at 500'.

If you folks are shooting at 500' and are not seeing a P-47 wingspan of that size, then the AH relative size picture is wrong.

Here's another way to visualize the AH sight. Let's say the horizontal bar width is 5 mils. If you were behind a P-47 and its wingspan was the size of one of the horizontal bars, you would be 8000' behind the P-47. If the sight was 20 mils wide from side to side and this matched the P-47 wingspan, you would still be 2000' behind.

Andy

[Toad]

Ah...

drags up chair, reaches for cooler, pops a beer....

I ALWAYS love this topic.

Tell 'em Andy!

[hitech]

Andy use the tank sight once it's horizontal lines are exactly 5 mils

HiTech

[Andy Bush]

hitech

Thanks much...that's good info.

Folks, here is how you use that number.

Go to the Hangar and load the tank. Now study the gunsight. The length of the horizontal bar is what we are focusing on...that becomes our 'ruler' for estimating range.

I compared the tank sight to a P-51 sight using the toggled zoom picture. I then measured the bar sizes to get a comparison between the tank sight (a known value) and the aircraft gunsight. If we assume that the tank and aircraft sights are scaled together, then here is a very rough rule of thumb (and I mean rough!!)

In the regular zoom position (Z key without using arrow keys to modify the zoom picture):

Use the length of one of the sight bars to equal about a P-47 size wingspan at a range of 1000 feet. If the P-47 size wingspan is equal to the width of the entire sight, then your range is about 300 feet.

For different aircraft (the ones smaller than the P-47), fit their wingspans just inside these gouges.

These are only rough TLAR estimates...but they do give you a general idea of range as a function of gunsight size.

Bottom line...get your target wingspan inside the width of the sight to ensure a shot that is close to your preset convergence ranges.

Andy



[This message has been edited by Andy Bush (edited 06-28-2000).]