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Re: Total Sorties
« Reply #30 on: September 24, 2017, 01:15:32 PM »
Sortie literally means exit. In military aviation a sortie ends when you land. In Aces High a sortie ends when you exit flight.

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Re: Total Sorties
« Reply #31 on: September 24, 2017, 02:12:24 PM »
No offense or anything but why is it your business how many sorties it took for someone to achieve the kills they did?

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Re: Total Sorties
« Reply #32 on: September 24, 2017, 05:34:07 PM »
Sorry if me being wired to be a geek interferes with the way you need to be perceived.

I ultimately fly to have fun! AH have done an amazing job modeling these planes and they are a blast to fly.  kudos!  :aok

Though I dig stats, this is only a wish.  A preference.  I am not stuck on any preference.

Are you ready? ...

I'd be OK having no stats at all too. NONE.  How about you guys whom this wish has struck a nerve of sorts with?  :old:
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Re: Total Sorties
« Reply #33 on: September 24, 2017, 05:42:49 PM »
You asked for something and didn't do your own due-diligence to understand the unintended consequences. That's how many wishes get ignored over the years. If you had dug deeper and illuminated the consequences to others for yourself, it often takes the fun out of being able to post a wish. The wishes I've seen acted upon have one commonality, a good thing for the most people and not just for the wisher.
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This is like the old joke that voters are harsher to their beer brewer if he has an outage, than their politicians after raising their taxes. Death and taxes are certain but, fun and sex is only now.

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Re: Total Sorties
« Reply #34 on: September 24, 2017, 06:05:21 PM »
bustr I did not realize a simple wish to add a stat would draw such insulting responses.  I mean its just a wish!

How about we put it to a vote when people log in as AH have done in the past for items?  [rhet] I mean, how could one be possibly offended if we did that.
« Last Edit: September 24, 2017, 06:08:04 PM by Slade »
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Re: Total Sorties
« Reply #35 on: September 24, 2017, 06:30:54 PM »
Just post your ideas, don't sweat the discussion. I'm sure a lot of people wonder about rearms.

HiTech responded so it's moot at this point. A poll won't change that. :salute

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Re: Total Sorties
« Reply #36 on: September 24, 2017, 07:34:45 PM »
Sorry if me being wired to be a geek interferes with the way you need to be perceived.

I'm not thinkin' it's the way I (or anyone else) needs to be perceived as much as the way you wanna perceive others. I can go the rest of my life without knowing how many times another player resupped. And I'm as much a geek as anyone.* :)

*I may well do 6 launch and traps before I venture out to engage. Now there's a geek stat.
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Re: Total Sorties
« Reply #37 on: September 26, 2017, 02:52:28 PM »
No offense or anything but why is it your business how many sorties it took for someone to achieve the kills they did?

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Re: Total Sorties
« Reply #38 on: September 26, 2017, 03:46:06 PM »
There is an opportunity here that was popular in AH2, then it was more as an anonymous activity like some of the muppets shooting for 300 262 kills

An accomplishment could be introduced as a contest against a personal score board. You pull up an accomplishment form. Pick your ride, load out and such. Then save it until later or click a start button. You get launched from the field you are at and now go for your kill string and as many re-arms as you need. So every time you land to re-arm, a text message notifies the arena, you have just landed with x number of kills and are re-arming. You just keep rinsing and repeating until you decide it's enough and tower. Then the text buffer says you landed x kills with x re-arms. There could be a master score board in the accomplishments that tracks these for each tour showing all of the players who took the challenge and their x kills to x re-arms. Then with each new tour carries over the three highest as permanent fixtures on the score board.

Abuse of this is not much of a matter unless it's a player with a friend or a second computer vulching to pad his count. Skuzzy could easily check the logs for such activity and the community loves to expose such things. Player abuse in terms of timid flying and HOnRun tactics, your name constantly in the text buffer will help players to eventually hunt you down and end your accomplishment en-mass. Or some lone wolf will take up accomplishment wreaking.... :O

There are times I wished players like Airjer would have gotten something like that in the text buffer for his creative mast head bombing antics. Even strat runners who spend hours doing their thing, getting something more than a landed damage score and no real idea of what they accomplished. CV bombing and BB bombing could get more of a message for landing those things destroyed. There are some really persistent jabo players who invest a lot of time sinking CV's who no one knows from the text buffer about their lone accomplishment.

Fighter jocks get all the glory in the buffer, while there are many other players doing things that getting recognition in the text buffer would keep them stoked. And for newer players, they really need this kind of validation much more than we older players. And one way to deal with ack, if you run over to a field and single handed drop all of the ack, get a sudden popup in the text buffer letting that country know whom to thank. Comparatively towns are easy to de-ack. Validation and your name in lights to help players decide you need to spend time in the tower if they can find you. We already communicate the locations of our love-to-hate rivals in the other countries so we can swamp them with machingunning love.

Vets will grouse that this will just fill the buffer with nonsense and even swamp the VOX queue. Validation of exploits is not a bad thing, it helps create rivalries and some kind of feed back other than hoping the green guys around you even see or care about what you just did.   
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This is like the old joke that voters are harsher to their beer brewer if he has an outage, than their politicians after raising their taxes. Death and taxes are certain but, fun and sex is only now.

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Re: Total Sorties
« Reply #39 on: September 27, 2017, 04:21:36 PM »
bustr you may be on to something.  How about keep the Channel 200 posts on kills as-is but also provide a way for the stats nutty like me extract or download the raw data and extrapolate ourselves.

This would not change the in game perception of a sortie.

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Re: Total Sorties
« Reply #40 on: September 27, 2017, 05:04:51 PM »
I try to offer ideas that benefit the most players in the community. Hitech taught me the hard way that he provided many ways to solve things I wish for that only benefits my curiosity. Now I build terrains and went through the PITA of creating a tiny terrain to only spawn fighters into a position that levels them so I can bring up the target to test my guns. Just like the gun harmonizing stations you see in WW2 pictures. And what did it do for me, nothing, I don't even play with it anymore. I think I have about 10 aircraft left to setup that have weird in-between lengths of rear wheel to front gear and height of the main gear to the bottom of the wing. It almost looks like I will have to use two more airfields to have enough spawn directions to customize the slope they will each spawn onto to level them. Fortunately the vast majority of planes have similar dimensions. 
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This is like the old joke that voters are harsher to their beer brewer if he has an outage, than their politicians after raising their taxes. Death and taxes are certain but, fun and sex is only now.