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Offline Lazerr

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m3 without troops.. you missed the point
« on: September 29, 2017, 12:28:39 AM »
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Offline viking73

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Re: m3 without troops.. you missed the point
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2017, 01:18:21 AM »
Ya it's not the m3. It's the easiness of upping a town with supplies from any vehicle. Troops with m3 is one of the most normal parts of the game.
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Re: m3 without troops.. you missed the point
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2017, 02:53:32 AM »
It isn't the end of the world, but if they're going to nerf base taking they ought to nerf resupply the same amount and remove field supplies from the M3 as well so the troop carriers are just as fast as the town supps.

I do wish Hitech or someone from HTC would weigh in on why troops were removed from M3s.

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Re: m3 without troops.. you missed the point
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2017, 04:05:22 AM »
I have to admit that I'm missing the point of that troops thing too.
Was it to get the goon back into play? Now, the demise of the goon wasn't caused by the M3 but by terrain design. Now it will just be the SdKfz instead of the M3 - slower and thus will be intercepted more often, but still advantageous over a goon as long as there's a convenient GV spawn around.

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Re: m3 without troops.. you missed the point
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2017, 07:17:39 AM »
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Re: m3 without troops.. you missed the point
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2017, 07:53:43 AM »
I seem remember a thread a while back where HT eluded to reducing the number of troops in a M3 to potentially give the an advantage to actually taking a goon. Personally, it always bugged (still does) me that you can generally get to an enemy objective faster in a GV than you can in a plane. That and GV spawns across large bodies of water. Seems counterintuitive in an air combat game.
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Re: m3 without troops.. you missed the point
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2017, 08:48:22 AM »
I hope they add in the iconic deuce and a half for quick resupps now. Hooray for logistics  :rock
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Re: m3 without troops.. you missed the point
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2017, 09:16:53 AM »
I seem remember a thread a while back where HT eluded to reducing the number of troops in a M3 to potentially give the an advantage to actually taking a goon. Personally, it always bugged (still does) me that you can generally get to an enemy objective faster in a GV than you can in a plane. That and GV spawns across large bodies of water. Seems counterintuitive in an air combat game.

I agree completely. In addition, there is absolutely no reason to use the roads in the game, in fact most of the time you don't to avoid getting knocked aside by the convoys. Lowering the overland speed of all vehicles would have fixed many issues.

Ok, don't give us what we want, give us what we need. This is akin to having a your stomach checked for ulcers by performing a colonoscopy and working your way up. Sure, we may need it but it doesn't address the problem, it is a backwards solution, and may just be a pain in the ***.
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Re: m3 without troops.. you missed the point
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2017, 09:36:08 AM »
I would respectfully submit that this change likely has nothing to do with the community grumbling about resupply.  It seems to be out of left field to me too.

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Re: m3 without troops.. you missed the point
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2017, 09:37:42 AM »
I would fly goons a lot, if it not ruins bomber scores.

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Re: m3 without troops.. you missed the point
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2017, 09:44:29 AM »
I'm wondering if he accidentally disabled troops when he meant to disable resupply... wouldn't be the first time Hitech did something unexpected...  :bolt:



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Re: m3 without troops.. you missed the point
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2017, 09:51:13 AM »
I'm wondering if he accidentally disabled troops when he meant to disable resupply... wouldn't be the first time Hitech did something unexpected...  :bolt:

Until we get an explanation, i'm going with the above.  :noid  :huh
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Re: m3 without troops.. you missed the point
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2017, 09:56:42 AM »
I'm wondering if he accidentally disabled troops when he meant to disable resupply... wouldn't be the first time Hitech did something unexpected...  :bolt:



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Maybe, but that still begs the question of why only the M3? The real disease is any GV capable of delivering troops or supplies. Disabling either on only the M3 only treats a symptom but does not come close to being a cure.
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Re: m3 without troops.. you missed the point
« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2017, 10:00:51 AM »
Would like to also know why? And why not remove troops from the Skd too? Took a base today with one. Does not make sense?
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Re: m3 without troops.. you missed the point
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2017, 10:01:00 AM »
Maybe, but that still begs the question of why only the M3?

Because someone, just like 90%* of the AH players, did not think of the SdKfz 251  :noid






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