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Re: FREE Aces High? New way to get fresh players?
« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2017, 09:02:43 PM »
I think that, while this is a magnificent game, it's a niche game. There just aren't as many WW2 junkies as there used to be, and also there is always new eye candy out there to seduce those who have the attention spans of a dog in a yard full of squirrels. I hope it gets better, but as we get older, I'm afraid the numbers may continue to drop.
You sir are exactly right.  The new generation of gamers has little to no knowledge or interest in  WWII.  As boomers continue to die out that interest in WWII may be replaced by the sons and daughters of the men fighting in the more modern wars of the last 20 years.  But I doubt it.   I saw a copy of an Ebook for our local High School, A US HISTORY book used by the Senior Class of 2018 and WWII was covered in two pages of text.   
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Re: FREE Aces High? New way to get fresh players?
« Reply #31 on: October 25, 2017, 11:20:54 PM »
 
You sir are exactly right.  The new generation of gamers has little to no knowledge or interest in  WWII.  As boomers continue to die out that interest in WWII may be replaced by the sons and daughters of the men fighting in the more modern wars of the last 20 years.  But I doubt it.   I saw a copy of an Ebook for our local High School, A US HISTORY book used by the Senior Class of 2018 and WWII was covered in two pages of text.
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Re: FREE Aces High? New way to get fresh players?
« Reply #32 on: October 26, 2017, 01:59:30 AM »
Hate to be rude but, you guys are all wrong. You are taking a game that is 100% based on ACM undertsanding and Situational Awarness in an unfair arena, and trying to interpret it that no one is interested anymore because of their age, or agenda, or WW2 interest, or sharks are too mean. That's all liberal stupid dumb ideology BS. People want action and combat in a 10 minute max period of time. It doesn't matter how much they die, if they have a chance of shooting someone down in that amount of time, they are satisfied. Even if they don't shoot anyone down. It's about the chance.  People love air combat. Simulator combat is taking off and isssss the future of real life air combat. Hitech you gotta stop listening to these people. Your game has many advantages that could make it extremely beneficial to the new world of air combat. People will only gain more interest.  You should trust the people who are the best at your "game". Understand your statistics. You are F ing amazing at Coading. We all appreciate what you have created believe me. I honestly wouldn't be saying this if I didn't love your ability.  But you have to face the grips of humanity and realize that your marketing, in-game management, and promotion, need people who are just as good at their "skill" as you are coading. If your steam website is the product of those task. Fire them all and hire new ones who actually know your game. I was sweet pissed when I saw the main steam page. The main front video acted like you were selling to people who already played the game. It showed nothing... I could send you a recording of game play that would work better than that BS.  There is so much more you could present... The people who wrote your site had jack watermelon undertsanding of the game.. I don't know who you are truely listening to, but they are ruining your great game. Listen to your great players for once. Maybe you wouldn't get so much idiotic complaints every other week. 

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Re: FREE Aces High? New way to get fresh players?
« Reply #33 on: October 26, 2017, 03:33:13 AM »
Hate to be rude but, you guys are all wrong.

You must evidence your assertions or you're just pushing your subjective opinion which holds the same weight as the other people.


People want action and combat in a 10 minute max period of time. It doesn't matter how much they die,

If this were true then the MPA would be the most popular arena. Only last week I essentially was TOLD by a player he left after only a few fights because he was frustrated he couldn't win. Think you're way off base mate. Not integrating readilty observable evidence. The prevailing culture is the significant moving variable.


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Re: FREE Aces High? New way to get fresh players?
« Reply #34 on: October 26, 2017, 04:15:32 AM »
Hate to be rude but, you guys are all wrong. You are taking a game that is 100% based on ACM undertsanding and Situational Awarness in an unfair arena, and trying to interpret it that no one is interested anymore because of their age, or agenda, or WW2 interest, or sharks are too mean. That's all liberal stupid dumb ideology BS. People want action and combat in a 10 minute max period of time. It doesn't matter how much they die, if they have a chance of shooting someone down in that amount of time, they are satisfied. Even if they don't shoot anyone down. It's about the chance.  People love air combat. Simulator combat is taking off and isssss the future of real life air combat. Hitech you gotta stop listening to these people. Your game has many advantages that could make it extremely beneficial to the new world of air combat. People will only gain more interest.  You should trust the people who are the best at your "game". Understand your statistics. You are F ing amazing at Coading. We all appreciate what you have created believe me. I honestly wouldn't be saying this if I didn't love your ability.  But you have to face the grips of humanity and realize that your marketing, in-game management, and promotion, need people who are just as good at their "skill" as you are coading. If your steam website is the product of those task. Fire them all and hire new ones who actually know your game. I was sweet pissed when I saw the main steam page. The main front video acted like you were selling to people who already played the game. It showed nothing... I could send you a recording of game play that would work better than that BS.  There is so much more you could present... The people who wrote your site had jack watermelon undertsanding of the game.. I don't know who you are truely listening to, but they are ruining your great game. Listen to your great players for once. Maybe you wouldn't get so much idiotic complaints every other week. 

Just trying to make your life and game better, don't throw it away.

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Re: FREE Aces High? New way to get fresh players?
« Reply #35 on: October 26, 2017, 05:29:01 AM »
Missing an entire market

I know that HTC is already aware of this because of previous evidence in marketing to a European audience.    Really the numbers pretty much support themselves during HTC business hours (guessing ~9 - 6 Central time) and beyond that beginning peak hours until ~ 11:30 pm. 

Aggressively, offering coupons for a month of freeplay to players located in critically dead time zone (between above hours) would boost the numbers exponentially.  Even if an otherwise paying customer in that time zone is exempt for one month during this process, I say it would also exponentially expand that players interest and length of subscription.

My premise being that others, such as myself who also play during off hours, repeatedly enter the sparsely populated arena and log out soon after attempting to find satisfactory entertainment with little success. 

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Re: FREE Aces High? New way to get fresh players?
« Reply #36 on: October 26, 2017, 07:59:57 AM »
Just for the Record, never wanted advertisement IN the game, audio, no redbull on the side of aircraft, billboards, etc.  Just a 30 or 60 second commercial when you first log in, then play!  :x
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Re: FREE Aces High? New way to get fresh players?
« Reply #37 on: October 26, 2017, 08:21:41 AM »
NoTar does Sfox pops in 3 or 4 times a month

That is not SFox from before that is someone that thinks it's funny to play with a name from a banned player.
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Re: FREE Aces High? New way to get fresh players?
« Reply #38 on: October 26, 2017, 08:37:43 AM »
Your game has many advantages that could make it extremely beneficial to the new world of air combat.


Modern air combat has nothing to do with ACM, they are getting kills at between 30 and 60 miles.  It's all about electronic warfare Sams and sidewinders.  Aces High has nothing to do to benefit modern air combat.
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Re: FREE Aces High? New way to get fresh players?
« Reply #39 on: October 26, 2017, 08:50:56 AM »
You must evidence your assertions or you're just pushing your subjective opinion which holds the same weight as the other people.


If this were true then the MPA would be the most popular arena. Only last week I essentially was TOLD by a player he left after only a few fights because he was frustrated he couldn't win. Think you're way off base mate. Not integrating readilty observable evidence. The prevailing culture is the significant moving variable.

Once again proving how oblivious y'all are. Match Play arena has a lot of problems. Just like the furball lake did. You hand people a stale peice of bread and  are confused they don't like it. There is no place besides the MA to up and roll for combat. The combat in the MA takes a while to understand. People just dont have the time to understand it in 2 weeks. The only reason I stayed after 2 weeks was because of the H2H where I could learn the game. My biggest problem with the MA at the time was the base distance and having no clue how to find enemies. I'm just trying to get y'all to be more effective, an in-game manager who follows game play would be a step. I'm just telling you by looking at the steam site for the first time, why I don't think it grabbed as many players as anticipated, and why so many fighters and squads have left and not returned. Those are provable stats. Kill the fighter spirit with all the nuances that piss the fighters off, all you have left is stale slow game play with strategy type players who don't play to be seen. Oh well.
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Re: FREE Aces High? New way to get fresh players?
« Reply #40 on: October 26, 2017, 09:00:05 AM »
Aggressively, offering coupons for a month of freeplay to players located in critically dead time zone (between above hours) would boost the numbers exponentially.

This is a bold claim, especially in the light of the recent STEAM events.
What are you basing that on?

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Re: FREE Aces High? New way to get fresh players?
« Reply #41 on: October 26, 2017, 09:37:35 AM »
Once again proving how oblivious y'all are. Match Play arena has a lot of problems. Just like the furball lake did. You hand people a stale peice of bread and  are confused they don't like it. There is no place besides the MA to up and roll for combat. The combat in the MA takes a while to understand. People just dont have the time to understand it in 2 weeks. The only reason I stayed after 2 weeks was because of the H2H where I could learn the game. My biggest problem with the MA at the time was the base distance and having no clue how to find enemies. I'm just trying to get y'all to be more effective, an in-game manager who follows game play would be a step. I'm just telling you by looking at the steam site for the first time, why I don't think it grabbed as many players as anticipated, and why so many fighters and squads have left and not returned. Those are provable stats. Kill the fighter spirit with all the nuances that piss the fighters off, all you have left is stale slow game play with strategy type players who don't play to be seen. Oh well.

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Re: FREE Aces High? New way to get fresh players?
« Reply #42 on: October 26, 2017, 09:43:41 AM »
to be able to page a trainer (with a button), and H2H is probably a good way to go, increasing diversity in vehicles and planes are an incentive to keep existing players.
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Re: FREE Aces High? New way to get fresh players?
« Reply #43 on: October 26, 2017, 11:11:19 AM »
Watching Hitech over the years, unless something needs an immediate fix or change, he changes things gradually almost like long term experimenting to see how something unfolds over 6 to 12 months. Hitech changed NDisles so there was an island filled with very close airfields out of the blue, and it created fast constant combat. I built BowlMA with a good percentage of bases the minimum distance of 19 miles apart, that generates activity.

Vilolator is not wrong in his assessment of the current generation of gamers. And we are not wrong in defending the uniqueness that is Aces High compared to the competition. What testing has shown me since BowlMA came into rotation along with the change to NDisles, players want to get into combat sooner. They are not interested in waiting for some large initiative to happen as you see from the lack of interest in missions. They want to play the game now, not play a game called "fly to the fight most of the night".

If Hitech accepts my newest terrain for rotation in the Melee arena, it continues the gradual testing of players wanting to get into fights sooner, and strategies to accommodate that while not changing the uniqueness of Aces High. I submitted a few weeks ago and I hope I've not honked Hitech off or something unforgivable like that. :huh
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Re: FREE Aces High? New way to get fresh players?
« Reply #44 on: October 26, 2017, 11:27:36 AM »
Just for the Record, never wanted advertisement IN the game, audio, no redbull on the side of aircraft, billboards, etc.  Just a 30 or 60 second commercial when you first log in, then play!  :x

Did get a little derailed there, huh...  :salute

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