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Offline Slade

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Proxy Awarding
« on: November 11, 2017, 09:12:11 AM »
Could proxy awarding of kills be changed such that one does not get one unless you actually landed at least single hit on the given plane?

Perhaps with the exception of bomb and bails.
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Re: Proxy Awarding
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2017, 10:41:49 AM »
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Re: Proxy Awarding
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2017, 11:28:51 AM »
the guy who gets the proxie doesn't get any points for it so what difference does it make, it just shows when he lands that he got more kills than he actually did. usually when I land kills with 1 or 2 proxies and get a wtg I tell countrymen how many were proxies. :airplane:
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Re: Proxy Awarding
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2017, 01:51:24 PM »
I believe the spirit of proxy kills is to give a kill for excellence in escape maneuvers, so -1
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Re: Proxy Awarding
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2017, 04:13:39 PM »
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I believe the spirit of proxy kills is to give a kill for excellence in escape maneuvers, so -1

I'm not a newbie as to all the colorful ways proxies are awarded.  Some of my favorite include:

  • Hitting a tree, mountain or other obstacle and with no one in sight or radar only to get the message: "you have been killed by ____" etc. 
  • Another is flying for 3-5 sectors looking for something red to engage with, finding nothing then bailing to re-up to find a fight in another part of map only to see:  "you have been killed by ____" etc.

Shall I can keep going?  The facts are clear.  There are ample instances where no skill, effort, ACM let alone a single hit are experienced.  Those are the Proxies I'd like not to be given out.

If your plane CAUSES me to hit a tree or your amazing ACM in escape maneuvers CAUSES me to die yes.  You should get a proxy for that.

Is this a reasonable request?




« Last Edit: November 11, 2017, 04:25:45 PM by Slade »
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Re: Proxy Awarding
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2017, 04:53:06 PM »
  • Another is flying for 3-5 sectors looking for something red to engage with, finding nothing then bailing to re-up to find a fight in another part of map only to see:  "you have been killed by ____" etc.


And how would AH tell the difference between this and a bomb'n'bail or someone just bailing to avoid giving you a kill?

I'm quite happy with the recent increase of proxy range to icon showing distance.  :aok
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Re: Proxy Awarding
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2017, 05:29:04 PM »
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And how would AH tell the difference between this and a bomb'n'bail or someone just bailing to avoid giving you a kill?

My guess is via C or C++.  What is your guess?

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I'm quite happy with the recent increase of proxy range to icon showing distance.

Me too.

Thanks.  :salute
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Re: Proxy Awarding
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2017, 06:47:03 PM »
See rule #4
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Re: Proxy Awarding
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2017, 05:54:13 AM »
See rule #4
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Re: Proxy Awarding
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2017, 10:39:08 AM »
For quote of quote of rule #4
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Re: Proxy Awarding
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2017, 01:14:49 PM »
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Re: Proxy Awarding
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2017, 03:59:48 PM »
Could proxy awarding of kills be changed such that one does not get one unless you actually landed at least single hit on the given plane?

Perhaps with the exception of bomb and bails.

Then it would not be a proxy kill, but a normal kill would be awarded.

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Re: Proxy Awarding
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2017, 08:49:14 PM »
Thanks for your posts.  I'll try to laser into the crux.

Could proxy awarding of kills be changed such that one does not get one unless you actually did something, anything to influence the kill other than being in the sector?

Otherwise I vote to give all proxy kills to Cybro.   LOL!  Why not use humor in this wish too.  :banana:

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Re: Proxy Awarding
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2017, 09:34:46 AM »


Ya'll got any more of them proxies!?



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OP is asking that "kills" not be awarded if no effort is put in to "achieve" the kill, but within the same post, wants to still be awarded kills for a bomber bailing out...   :bhead

The same reason you get a proxy "kill" on those bombers that bailed out, is the same reason ANYONE else gets a proxy when you die... They were THERE, IN GAME, AND CLOSE TO THE ACTION.



Just put the proxies up in lights... KB got 1 kill and 14 proxies  <--- everyone laugh! :devil

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Re: Proxy Awarding
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2017, 10:00:02 AM »
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wants to still be awarded kills for a bomber bailing out

I think I called it an exception.  Not sure how best to deal with that.  I was trying to recognize that that is a very debated topic.

I think all proxy kills from bomber bails should go to Cybro too though!  :rofl

Hey this might sound weird but how about giving away the points for a proxy (yes I know there are none usually) but not the kill?
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