new map...opinions?

[molybdenum]

Bustr has succeeded in making a map that makes me not want to play while it is on. Even Bowl did not do that!
His purpose is to channel activity into localized areas, creating a melee, and in that he has succeeded, and good for him. I'll be interested to see how many players prefer that (though the people on this message board are not representative of the AH community as a whole, but no other sample available).
My problem is that everything is extremely predictable.  Creativity is stifled. People of mediocre ability but a desire to help, like me, find little useful to do and get shot down or bomb****ed. while trying. Because what the enemy is doing is predictable as well I can always resup something, but that gets old fairly quickly. So why bother logging on?
This map might well appeal to the guys who have playing the game for a decade. But, given the steep learning curve of AH3, new guys, unless all they want to do is shoot stuff down and then die in a blaze of glory, might be quickly discouraged.

Just my opinion. Would be interested in hearing others'.

[1stpar3]

Game play is pretty much predictable on all maps,IMO. I really like this new map. 1. Its well thought out--quick action, whether GV or fighter. I my self, not much of a climb out hit a target bomber type. 2. It has some new wrinkles...the bases with Map Room on field with no town. I have yet, to log on and not find fast and furious action, when those base takes are on. I am not a Tanker either. WIRB, now your talking my language! Guess thats why I like those bases? Lots of DE-acking...AKA WIRB FODDER. Only thing I have come across on this new map, I dont care for, is nothing to do with the map. The new QUADRANT gv thing, well jury is still deliberating. Just dont know about that,yet. Seems there are more fighters up all over the map as well! If that was your thing about other terrains, this works great. BUT, if you are a Bomber type, I guess it could be problematic? Strats are pretty well protected here of late. Or at least it looks like it is,could be furballers. I like it!    Oh, and thats why I Bombt**D, I got that alot...so I learned how to RETURN the love! I do see your point though. Not every one has the time to play as much. I still practice about an hour off line per day,give or take. Was best way really, lots of aids to work with. I got descent at it and now its my favorite activity. Sorry, if I am the cause of any woes you have about getting bombed, its not personal 

[8thJinx]

Give it some time.  New and different maps are in the pipeline. 

[DmonSlyr]

I've been having a pretty good time on it. I haven't played during direct prime time, but a couple hours after... been pretty solid fights. I think the shorter bases really help. Not sure about quadrant dar yet. Some tankers tonight did not like it haha. But, IMO, I do think there should be a dar so players can find action rather than make the map look dead while everyone is in tanks. Overall I think its a success and I've seen better fights later at night on the west coast!

[JunkyII]

What cant you do on this map that you could on others....creatively speaking....actually matter of fact put examples of things you can't do on this map that you can on others....to get past me being redundant, there will be virtually nothing except the back strats...which many agreed shouldn't have 163s enabled.

All maps do offer the same things, some just offer more of certain things then others....like you and many others have said to me about M3s resupplying towns....adapt.

[DubiousKB]

I haven't been pulled into the quicksand that is terrain creation...  So I won't presume to know how the ratz will receive their maze.

We've all had a "this map sucks" moment, but it's rarely about the map design, and much more about what people are doing at the moment ON that map that sours us.

As posted above, very specific examples would go a long way to assist in a solution, rather than poo on some community members putting their time in for YOUR entertainment...   

Let's see your map...

[Vraciu]

Seems like a pretty cool map to me.   

[lunatic1]

Bustr has succeeded in making a map that makes me not want to play while it is on. Even Bowl did not do that!
His purpose is to channel activity into localized areas, creating a melee, and in that he has succeeded, and good for him. I'll be interested to see how many players prefer that (though the people on this message board are not representative of the AH community as a whole, but no other sample available).
My problem is that everything is extremely predictable.  Creativity is stifled. People of mediocre ability but a desire to help, like me, find little useful to do and get shot down or bomb****ed. while trying. Because what the enemy is doing is predictable as well I can always resup something, but that gets old fairly quickly. So why bother logging on?
This map might well appeal to the guys who have playing the game for a decade. But, given the steep learning curve of AH3, new guys, unless all they want to do is shoot stuff down and then die in a blaze of glory, might be quickly discouraged.

Just my opinion. Would be interested in hearing others'.

WOW I thought Buzzsaw would be the only map someone would complain about-I WAS WRONG

[Zardoz]

I like.

[lunatic1]

My problem is that everything is extremely predictable.  Creativity is stifled.
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so how does a game supposed to sneak up on you, that's what it sounds like you want?  how is that supposed to work. oceania map is ok.

tell us what you want in a map that is wrong with this map--because this has gv fights- air to air fights bombers dropping bombs and cv groups with Battleships and sheep oh my--wait dang it bish stole all the sheep.

this was only the 2nd time oceania map has been up. but really aren't the battles on all the maps really the same all the time.

now be prepared because bustr will suggest to you as he has me on several occasions to design and built your on map.

Hint--we haven't had a map that looks like a target yet.

[Zener]

There are things about every map I don't like... but there are things about every map I very much like.  I appreciate the creativity and efforts of the map makers to give us all some variety here.  Part of playing this game (and enjoying it, IMHO) is being able to figure out a way around the obstacles, so to speak.  There are no guarantees anything will work, but when it does it's a sweet kind of success.  When it fails, live and learn, then try another tactic.  I think that applies to maps as well as to every other aspect of the game.

[1stpar3]

 

My problem is that everything is extremely predictable.  Creativity is stifled.
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so how does a game supposed to sneak up on you, that's what it sounds like you want?  how is that supposed to work. oceania map is ok.

tell us what you want in a map that is wrong with this map--because this has gv fights- air to air fights bombers dropping bombs and cv groups with Battleships and sheep oh my--wait dang it bish stole all the sheep.

this was only the 2nd time oceania map has been up. but really aren't the battles on all the maps really the same all the time.

now be prepared because bustr will suggest to you as he has me on several occasions to design and built your on map.

Hint--we haven't had a map that looks like a target yet.

You forgot THE SQUIRRELS with cameras

[Oldman731]

Part of playing this game (and enjoying it, IMHO) is being able to figure out a way around the obstacles, so to speak. 

I think this illustrates the age-old divide in AW, AH and probably the other similar games.  Do you figure out a way around the obstacle, or do you confront and try to overcome it?  War-winners v. furballers, seems to me.

There is no final answer.

- oldman

[1stpar3]

Right! At least HighTech puts in the effort to try and fix some game play dynamics that get a bad rap! This is just an experiment, in the vein of last tours M3 troop thing. More than likely? Lets ride this out a bit before judgement is passed! 

[mike8318]

Come up with something better. I'll wait....