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Offline perdue3

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Yak-9T 20mm option
« on: November 17, 2017, 08:27:14 PM »
When did this happen and why am I just now learning?!?!
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Re: Yak-9T 20mm option
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2017, 11:43:32 PM »
When did this happen and why am I just now learning?!?!

First time I think it was posted on the forums to the best of my knowledge.  :headscratch:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,390032.0.html

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Re: Yak-9T 20mm option
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2017, 04:17:05 PM »
The Yak-9T was essentially a Yak-9 with the cockpit moved back 0.4m to allow space for the 37mm gun. To simplify production Yak then made the Yak-9M, which had the rearward Yak 9T cockpit position but with the 20 mm cannon from the Yak-9. So our AH 9T is actually a 9T/9M hybrid.

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Re: Yak-9T 20mm option
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2017, 06:34:50 PM »
     The "T" was for tank.  The 37mm cannon could penetrate 2 inches of armor from about a half mile.   Wasn't the "M" the long range version?

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Re: Yak-9T 20mm option
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2017, 07:46:56 PM »
The T was never for Tank.

It wasn't a tank gun, and it wasn't an anti tank gun. Somebody uninformed saw how big it was and made the connection that it was as big as a tank's gun (must remember the time frame, some tanks at the time still had quite small guns compared to end-war stuff).

It's an oft-repeated but debunked story that keeps popping up, so please don't feel offended that I had to correct it.

The Yak-9D was the long range version, if I recall.

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Re: Yak-9T 20mm option
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2017, 10:28:14 PM »
     The "T" was for tank.  The 37mm cannon could penetrate 2 inches of armor from about a half mile.   Wasn't the "M" the long range version?
The long range version was the "L" model. The "M" stood for Minesweeper.

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Re: Yak-9T 20mm option
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2017, 10:41:24 PM »
Well there was an actual M variant... but it was just a further development of the -D. The D gave about 50% more fuel tankage than the standard -9T, and the -DD had even more (Yes, it was called the Yak-9DD, insert your joke here). They saw limited use as bomber escorts for Pe-2s and B-17s it seems.

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Re: Yak-9T 20mm option
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2017, 02:02:01 PM »
 according to the Soviet film I saw It was used as an anti tank plane and it was an anti tank gun, used as an air v air weapon.

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Re: Yak-9T 20mm option
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2017, 02:04:01 PM »
     Maybe the Soviets had correct intel on Their own weapons.

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Re: Yak-9T 20mm option
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2017, 02:04:21 PM »
Erm... nope. Sorry. That film was wrong.

This is why I had to mention it: One of those things that gets repeated often enough people think it's correct but it never was.

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Re: Yak-9T 20mm option
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2017, 11:59:24 AM »
     Maybe the Soviets had correct intel on Their own weapons.
At some point one starts to belive his own propaganda...
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Re: Yak-9T 20mm option
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2017, 05:36:26 PM »
Thank you for the responses. My question was not regarding "why" we have a 20mm option, rather when did we get it?
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Re: Yak-9T 20mm option
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2017, 05:50:00 PM »
I can't remember it not being in there...  as far as I can recall, it always has had the 20, but if you're going to use the 20, you may as well use the 9U and get a bit better handling and range out of the plane.

The 37 is pretty fun for deacking small fields though if you have decent aim.
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Re: Yak-9T 20mm option
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2017, 05:53:08 PM »
I believe it got the 20mm option when the Yaks were updated and the 7B was introduced.
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Re: Yak-9T 20mm option
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2017, 07:31:48 PM »
I can't remember it not being in there...  as far as I can recall, it always has had the 20, but if you're going to use the 20, you may as well use the 9U and get a bit better handling and range out of the plane.

The 37 is pretty fun for deacking small fields though if you have decent aim.

it's also very good on some vehicles, top rear deck on the panzer is usually an easy kill.