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Offline 19zac

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Re: Collision Model, How does it work?
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2017, 06:01:12 PM »
This is where your misunderstanding. It is what your computer saw him as hitting your plane. On his computer he missed you by > < that much.

Thats why everyone who KNOWS the system says.......

Point taken. Like I said I don't really have an issue with the system, because as Wiley said this is the best option. I just wouldn't call it "perfect".
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Re: Collision Model, How does it work?
« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2017, 03:47:37 AM »
Point taken. Like I said I don't really have an issue with the system, because as Wiley said this is the best option. I just wouldn't call it "perfect".

When a "friendly" shoots you they take the damage.

When an enemy rams you they take the damage.

Sounds perfect to me.

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Re: Collision Model, How does it work?
« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2017, 04:31:33 AM »
I know a little bit about "lag" and the fact that instantaneous feedback to all players is not possible, but I can't understand how the collision model works. A player flies into me, I go down and they keep flying!!??, now if I flew into them I could understand it.

Hitech or Skuzzy, would you be so kind as to give us a "general" explanation of how it works? It maybe all me, I just don't understand it. :salute

As said: If your plane is in contact with another object on your screen you take the damage. That is the only thing that matters, the collision model doesnt care about whos 'fault' it is.
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Re: Collision Model, How does it work?
« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2017, 04:45:32 AM »
I don't ordinarily shout, but...

STOP RUNNING INTO STUFF AND YOU WON'T HAVE COLLISIONS.

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Re: Collision Model, How does it work?
« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2017, 10:42:26 AM »
Keep in mind the model is the same for all of us.  Sometimes you will win a collision sometimes you will lose.

I must say too, I do not think I have ever had a player intentionally try to collide with the exception of plane trying to kill my M3.

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Re: Collision Model, How does it work?
« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2017, 10:44:57 AM »
If you collide, you die. If the other guy collides with you, you will still die.

 
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Re: Collision Model, How does it work?
« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2017, 10:54:06 AM »
Its hard to say its "perfect". The other night I was trying to avoid someone with more E than me, and they just ran into me from behind. I get the collide, they get the kill on me, and they keep flying like nothing ever happened. I was defenseless there.

But I understand that no two computers can be in the exact same place at the exact same time. The system usually doesn't bother me, but that one time in particular made me a little annoyed.
You think that’s bad? I was on the runway once (not moving) and registered a collision. The other guys FE didn’t see it.
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Re: Collision Model, How does it work?
« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2017, 11:23:31 AM »
 :rofl :rofl :rofl

I now understand, and it makes sense. :aok

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Re: Collision Model, How does it work?
« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2017, 04:18:00 PM »
I don't ordinarily shout, but...

STOP RUNNING INTO STUFF AND YOU WON'T HAVE COLLISIONS.

Wiley.
how is a plane hitting me in the rear running into it? DID YOU READ THE COMMENT

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Re: Collision Model, How does it work?
« Reply #24 on: November 30, 2017, 04:21:14 PM »
how is a plane hitting me in the rear running into it? DID YOU READ THE COMMENT

Yes, yes.  It's always their fault.  The game is still not your insurance adjuster.

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Re: Collision Model, How does it work?
« Reply #25 on: November 30, 2017, 04:26:12 PM »
Hitech when are we gonna get a sarcasm font? It's rather quite simple to understand if you read it slow. Lusche even put a picture in to try and help with the understanding.
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Re: Collision Model, How does it work?
« Reply #26 on: November 30, 2017, 04:27:10 PM »
how is a plane hitting me in the rear running into it? DID YOU READ THE COMMENT

Curious.  You sat there and watched the plane fly into you.  What did you expect to happen?

You do understand, on his computer he did not hit anything?
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Re: Collision Model, How does it work?
« Reply #27 on: November 30, 2017, 04:41:37 PM »
I was landing an he111 with the rear guns out about 400 ft off the ground with power off about 90 ias.  flaps were set to the 15* setting for a slight lift to bleed speed.

NO I DIDNT JUST SIT THERE. and so what if I did. a plane running in to the rear of mine should not award me a collision soley anytime!  How am I suppose to know what some one else sees on there screen?  The other day I was fighting shane in his la and I was high and he was low as we pass he pulls up into me I get the collision and he flies away damage free, how am I to know what is on his screen? is it my fault for the collision because he pulled straight up?

I understand how it works, doesn't mean I agree with it.  most folks that are commenting in this thread are fear fighters and stay on the outside of the fight until its safe to cherry pick.  I turn fight and I like to get close and fight so I get more collisions than others and I am not saying I don't deserve some, but on the other hand a lot should be shared and equal damage sorted to both parties. 

how do you go about setting you computer to a slower screen portrayal?   

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Re: Collision Model, How does it work?
« Reply #28 on: November 30, 2017, 04:43:36 PM »
Curious.  You sat there and watched the plane fly into you.  What did you expect to happen?

You do understand, on his computer he did not hit anything?
Happened plenty of times. Nose up stall. Can’t maneuver. Watch the guy pull right into me and helpless to do anything. Happens all the time when you’re floating around in a big fat monster of a bird.

I’ve come to terms with it. Rather have that than no collision at all.
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Re: Collision Model, How does it work?
« Reply #29 on: November 30, 2017, 04:47:15 PM »
How am I suppose to know what some one else sees on there screen? 

You can't, of course.  It's one of the great unfairnesses of life - you die, even if there was nothing you could do about it.  Life is hard, and then you die.

From the other guy's perspective, of course, he simply buzzed your plane, pulled out, looked back and was somewhat surprised that you had plunged into the ground.  "Wonder what got into him?" he thought.

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