Hitech: I tried the new mouse mode.

[bustr]

Hitech,

You asked me to pull my controllers and fly with the mouse, and yes during takeoff the rudder was controlled with the side to side motion of the mouse.

I'm not mentally wired for mouse flight right now but, the new controller box helped a lot. And I suspect the mouse has to be really scaled so small movements make small attitude changes while at the center of the control circle a lot slower than my mouse was being responded to. Mentally accounting for how the rudder responds digitally to A\S\D is a bite. And constantly re-centering with S creates strange nose fluctuations. Too bad releasing A&D doesn't toggle a smooth auto center. I guess there have to be compromises to having only two hands.  I suppose if I spent a week doing nothing but learning the mouse and A\S\D I could get it wired. I'm hoping new 2 weekers with only a mouse are already accomplished mouse game players and this will be an expected exercise for them. It is a universe better than the green ring commander mouse flight mode.

At least you can pull a loop now with the mouse.

[bustr]

Forgot to mention this....

Sorry, I couldn't get the mouse to change into cursor mode when I brought up the clip board. I thought "H" would facilitated that and it didn't. You have a bold message in yellow that pops up at the top of the screen about that subject, it was not very intuitive reading it. Otherwise the mouse work perfectly when I picked a plane, spawned on the runway, and went for it. No setup was necessary.

[nrshida]

I'm not mentally wired for mouse flight right now but, the new controller box helped a lot.

 

[hitech]

I would bet you mouse switch issue is do to a mapping change that new players do not suffer from.

"Mouse GUI Hold Down" should be mapped to ;
 "Mouse GUI Toggle" shoud be mapped to (shift) ;

Then  the messages should make sense on your screen.

HiTech

[TWCAxew]

Hitech, would you like to have more ppl to test it for you and give feedback?

DutchVII

[Lazerr]

Yes.. in my case the key was already mapped to F key, as it was prior to the update.

Buster you should give it a whirl in a tank and share your toughts.

Im finding it bothersome to move the mouse so violently to to turn the turret.  Before the uodate it was smooth like flying a plane... no need to slide the mouse left or right, then pick it up and move it to the other side of the mousepad to continue turret movement.

I still need to play with some this weekend, but even with adjusting  the sesitivity in gui view preferences, it just made the turret feel spastic.

[bustr]

I have my mouse mapped in Mode 2 and scaled for turning the turret and controlling manned guns. I drive with my rudder peddles or the keyboard. I'm using an old optical DELL mouse from a PC I bought in 2004. As for the inputs to fly, I bet for my mouse, scaling will tame down my inputs.

Hitech, if you really want, I'll down load a full version and perform a vanilla install with only the mouse as a controller, then test the key I've mapped to something else.

Anyone can test something Hitech has newly released and give him feedback. Cognitively doing that as an isolated test specifically for that function always helps either Hitech or, your own understanding if you find in your report back, Hitech gives you additional info which highlights a misunderstanding. It never hurts to validate as a player something like the updated mouse control since now it is very important to the future of this game for all of us.   

[Ack-Ack]

Yes.. in my case the key was already mapped to F key, as it was prior to the update.

Buster you should give it a whirl in a tank and share your toughts.

Im finding it bothersome to move the mouse so violently to to turn the turret.  Before the uodate it was smooth like flying a plane... no need to slide the mouse left or right, then pick it up and move it to the other side of the mousepad to continue turret movement.

I still need to play with some this weekend, but even with adjusting  the sesitivity in gui view preferences, it just made the turret feel spastic.

Do you have a programmable mouse?  If so, try using the mouse software to adjust the DPI settings and sensitivity instead of doing it in-game.

[27th]

I am stepping in this post because I am trying to figure what is being talked about concerning the mouse aspect. Other than Lazer that I know of, I've been flying mouse in this game going on 17 years. So naturally, I am concerned.

Two to three patches ago, they got reset but after talking to Lazer about it, everything is back to normal.

That patch with moving rudders by mouse control is new, but I don't mind it. Something I have to get used to.

I have a gaming mouse but I do all my setting on the game. I rarely touch the setting on my mouse software. I think only sensitivity.

I placed my setting of toggling with the right lick for the mouse cursor and flight mode.


 

27th

[perdue3]

My squadmate flies with mouse and was wondering if there was a way to disable yaw control with mouse. He says that taking off has become extremely difficult for him as he must now relearn to fly.

[27th]

My squadmate flies with mouse and was wondering if there was a way to disable yaw control with mouse. He says that taking off has become extremely difficult for him as he must now relearn to fly.

Tell your squaddie to look for me in the main arena and I will help.

 

27th

[CAV]

You know what would go great with this mouse stuff?............

Infantry....

[Lazerr]

Do you have a programmable mouse?  If so, try using the mouse software to adjust the DPI settings and sensitivity instead of doing it in-game.

Ak i have a button right on my mouse to change sensitivity.  It is always on its lowest setting.  I didnt have much time to mess with it this weekend.

[-aper-]

What made WarThunder so popular is that they implemented three different mouse control modes in their game:

1) Relative mouse control - a standard way where  you have to constantly move the mouse during a turn.

2) Virtual joystick. Using your mouse you put virtual stick into position you need to perform turn. The position of your virtual joystick is displayed on a screen as a white dot that moves around gunsite area. The central (neutral) position of virtual joystick is a center of gunsite.
This type of control seems to be clumsy from the first look and has received lots of criticism  in the past until some guys discovered the best sensitivity settings for this setup and started to show quite impressive results with it.
In this video
russian player using this control mode flies Yak in between vertical frames of the bridge (90 degree roll) 1:20 and under the bridge inverted 2:30 . In the end of the video when he was flying P47 and shot down several players in SB arena he was called a cheater

3) Mouse Aim. It is actually mouse over AI control mode. You click on the screen giving direction to AI (that actually controls the plane) and AI performs the rest/best to bring your plane to this point.  The most easy way to operate the plane. Some people call it the noob-catering casual retard control. With F3 view mode it is quite effective and brings lots of new customers to the game on every day basis.

For HTC the first goal if they really want to bring many new customers into the game is to create similar mouse control modes to bring as many free-to play customers into the game as possible.(I would recommend creating WarThunder setup profile to map the most important controls/keys the way they mapped in Warthunder by default).

The next goal should be to motivate these customers to upgrade their hardware (get real Joysticks etc) and become a subscribers. This part is much more difficult and for example WarThunder (to tell the story short) actually failed to create environment in their SB/RB arenas to motivate people to migrate massively to these arenas from arcade battles. Otherwise they would have already doubled/tripled their revenue.
Actually AH has much more potential in achieving this goal as everybody will be playing in one arena and it will be obvious that people who play with joysticks have advantage.