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Strange X52 pinky button issue
« on: December 17, 2017, 11:48:55 AM »
Hi all,

Recently I have discovered an issue with the pinky button (Button 6 in Properties, button 5 in-game).

At first I thought it just crapped the bed because it stopped working, but today I realized Windows recognizes the button under Devices>Properties whenever I press it. I went into Aces and it suddenly worked. I've narrowed it down to the button only works in-game when I have the properties window up. As soon as I close the properties window and tab back into the game, the pinky button no longer registers in game. If I alt tab and open the window back up and tab back in, it works again. I've also tried running the game as admin.

Any thoughts?


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Re: Strange X52 pinky button issue
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2017, 04:09:22 PM »
Yep..i have game controller properties window up to get all buttons to work on x52 ..i just use throttle now..some buttons dont work unless i do that.its part of my pre game flight check list
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Re: Strange X52 pinky button issue
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2017, 04:54:55 PM »
Are you using the latest signed drivers from [Logitech]
Their drivers are supposed to be a bit more stable than Saiteks'.

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Re: Strange X52 pinky button issue
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2017, 05:27:02 PM »
I installed those latest drivers - no change unfortunately. Now I can't even open the Game Controller Settings right click menu, I click it and nothing happens.

Unfortunate really, every other button works in AH besides the pinky button.
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Re: Strange X52 pinky button issue
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2017, 05:31:16 PM »
on my old 2 x52 sticks I always had that window open as well. For some reason the stick works better that way  :rolleyes:
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Re: Strange X52 pinky button issue
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2017, 05:59:37 PM »
I installed those latest drivers - no change unfortunately. Now I can't even open the Game Controller Settings right click menu, I click it and nothing happens.

Unfortunate really, every other button works in AH besides the pinky button.

Did you try going to Control Panel/Devices and Printers?
Your X52 HOTAS should be in the list.  Right click on the icon and select Game Controller Settings/Properties.
You can also create a short-cut on your desktop to eliminate all that navigation, just to check the controller settings.

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Re: Strange X52 pinky button issue
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2017, 02:09:44 PM »
I just confirmed - my pinky hasn't worked in ages - but with the panel open, it works in game. I'm using the latest LOGITECH drivers and prior the latest Saitek. Panel closed - Aces High doesn't register the pinky switch.
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Re: Strange X52 pinky button issue
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2017, 02:47:52 PM »
I'm thinking the problem may be related to the SST software.
Here's a link to a gamer having a similar issue.  Elite Dangerous Forums

Basically they're advising to go into the SST programing software and remap the pinky switch button. (that is if you have a profile programed)  If not, then right-click on
the X52 icon over by the clock and select 'clear'.

If working properly, the pinky trigger should display on the throttle MFD when pressed.

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Re: Strange X52 pinky button issue
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2017, 11:11:25 AM »
I don't use the SST software, but when I press the pinky key it does display on the MFD...and the MFD says No Profile.
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Re: Strange X52 pinky button issue
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2018, 09:16:21 AM »
I'm thinking the problem may be related to the SST software.
Here's a link to a gamer having a similar issue.  Elite Dangerous Forums

Basically they're advising to go into the SST programing software and remap the pinky switch button. (that is if you have a profile programed)  If not, then right-click on
the X52 icon over by the clock and select 'clear'.

If working properly, the pinky trigger should display on the throttle MFD when pressed.

Coogan
I've just tried that. Doesn't work either.  So is the issue with Aces High then?
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Re: Strange X52 pinky button issue
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2018, 09:50:14 AM »
I've just tried that. Doesn't work either.  So is the issue with Aces High then?

Another thing to check is to make sure the following two settings are unchecked.



Clutch mode will disable the Pinkie Switch.
If either of the boxes are checked, clear them.
You have to hit Apply and OK, before change will take effect.

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From Wiley: If you're hitting them after they drop, that's not defense, that is revenge.
Game Id's:
AHIII: Coogan
RDR2: Coogan_Bear
MSFS-2020: Coogan Bear

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Re: Strange X52 pinky button issue
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2018, 09:51:44 AM »
Another thing to check is to make sure the following two settings are unchecked.

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Clutch mode will disable the Pinkie Switch.
If either of the boxes are checked, clear them.
You have to hit Apply and OK, before change will take effect.

Coogan
Yep, we already know that Coogn. Doesn't fix the issue unfortunately.  :rolleyes:
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Re: Strange X52 pinky button issue
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2018, 09:56:10 AM »
Yep, we already know that Coogn. Doesn't fix the issue unfortunately.  :rolleyes:

Have you tried using the SST Software to check that something may not have been changed or reset?
I would try that just to see if the switch is registering within it's own application.

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From Wiley: If you're hitting them after they drop, that's not defense, that is revenge.
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AHIII: Coogan
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MSFS-2020: Coogan Bear

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Re: Strange X52 pinky button issue
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2018, 02:17:59 PM »
All of my X-52s have had this problem.  The buttons I use for WEP, check6 and combat trim will only work in AH with the test screen open.

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Re: Strange X52 pinky button issue
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2018, 04:57:09 PM »
I've never had the issue, but I also use an SST profile.  I wonder if it might be due to the stick treating the pinky as a shift state button even when there's no profile loaded, and having the test window open bypasses that?

I'd be curious if someone who has this issue were to use a blank profile with SST with no shift states and see if the button starts working without the test window open.

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