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Offline Slade

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TU-2s vs. WWII
« on: January 01, 2018, 11:34:23 AM »
Hello,

Relative you all the other planes in the game, are the TU-2's modeled pretty closely to what they were capable of in WWII?


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Re: TU-2s vs. WWII
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2018, 03:14:15 PM »
  Depending on who is using It.. some dogfight as well as a Tempest. and dive at 500 mph.

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Re: TU-2s vs. WWII
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2018, 05:37:51 PM »
Two 1850hp engines with low empty weight makes for some fun on your way home from a bombing mission.

I was always running into fighters halfway to the enemy strats which made it a tough decision whether to drop bombs, man the defensive guns, or try to outrun the climbing interceptors.

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Re: TU-2s vs. WWII
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2018, 05:47:07 PM »
   A real one sure couldn't dogfight.

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Re: TU-2s vs. WWII
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2018, 06:03:38 PM »
   A real one sure couldn't dogfight.

You are wrong about that.
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Re: TU-2s vs. WWII
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2018, 07:07:38 PM »
I took a look at its' weight after it had been released and came to a conclusion that it seems to be roughly ~1600lbs underweight.

My original thread: (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,358715.msg4756778.html#msg4756778)
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Re: TU-2s vs. WWII
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2018, 07:04:17 PM »
There was a pilot who flew the TU2 with aggression and he took on 4 109s shooting down one and making it back to base.

The difference in weight between a fully loaded and fueled and an empty TU2 was pretty significant.

If his opponent tries to turn with it slow, he's likely in a lot of trouble.

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Re: TU-2s vs. WWII
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2018, 06:25:14 PM »
Interesting thread.  Who knew!? 

I almost want to up a TU-2, immediately dump the bombs and fly it as a twin engine fighter.

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Re: TU-2s vs. WWII
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2018, 09:54:37 PM »
I used to bait buff interceptors by bringing a heavy fighter to enemy strats but the change in the map icons led me to using the Tu2 to bomb something at the strats.

The problem is your choice of fuel amount.

If you don't bring much fuel, you will certainly be light enough after you drop to put up a decent fight but know that you won't likely be making it home.

If you bring enough fuel for the return trip, you will have to stay high after bombing and maximize the distance traveled back toward your country to burn enough fuel.     Then you have to pick the proper time to snap around and attack your pursuer.

It's best when they get restless and do that last zoom to your altitude and get slow.

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Re: TU-2s vs. WWII
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2018, 10:25:44 AM »
There are way easier ways to find some quick action...

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Re: TU-2s vs. WWII
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2018, 09:30:23 AM »
There were some women Soviet Tu-2 pilots from a squadron known to mix it up on their way back... they even had a nickname...
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Re: TU-2s vs. WWII
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2018, 11:58:55 AM »
    17,000 lb dry weight.  bf 109s were designed as BnZ fighters the wing loading on those planes is substantial. and the higher 1 goes, the worse It gets.   But  to have a TU2 that is on par with a dedicated turner like a Spit, is what makes a fantasy game  not a simulator.

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Re: TU-2s vs. WWII
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2018, 12:36:32 PM »
    17,000 lb dry weight.  bf 109s were designed as BnZ fighters the wing loading on those planes is substantial. and the higher 1 goes, the worse It gets.   But  to have a TU2 that is on par with a dedicated turner like a Spit, is what makes a fantasy game  not a simulator.

Bf109 was always intended to be an interceptor. Even the late-model 109s do not have desirable characteristics for BnZ. They are energy-builders.

WMaker's conclusion is significant. Wonder why it was not addressed.



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Re: TU-2s vs. WWII
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2018, 12:41:30 PM »
    17,000 lb dry weight.  bf 109s were designed as BnZ fighters the wing loading on those planes is substantial. and the higher 1 goes, the worse It gets.   But  to have a TU2 that is on par with a dedicated turner like a Spit, is what makes a fantasy game  not a simulator.

Youre exaggerating. Ill take a spit against your tu2 anytime.

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Re: TU-2s vs. WWII
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2018, 01:18:32 PM »
But  to have a TU2 that is on par with a dedicated turner like a Spit, is what makes a fantasy game  not a simulator.


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