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Offline Arlo

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Re: ok..dont laugh...SUBMARINES, limited
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2018, 11:49:17 AM »
I believe I covered inside and outside the box rather well. My illustration gave example of what submarine simmers enjoy most versus a whittled down arcade version (anything short of the submariner experience without actually being in the sub).

Visit here for an idea of how devoted the submarine simulator community is to realism: http://www.subsim.com/index.php

Adding sub spawns and treating sub warfare like tank spawns in AH won't attract them.

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Re: ok..dont laugh...SUBMARINES, limited
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2018, 02:42:53 PM »
I believe I covered inside and outside the box rather well. My illustration gave example of what submarine simmers enjoy most versus a whittled down arcade version (anything short of the submariner experience without actually being in the sub).

Visit here for an idea of how devoted the submarine simulator community is to realism: http://www.subsim.com/index.php

Adding sub spawns and treating sub warfare like tank spawns in AH won't attract them.
Very aware of the website - I've had an account there for over a decade now... no different than most pilots would agree that pressing E to start your engine, forgetting about fuel, prop, and heat management in your aircraft isn't a whittled down experience for the seasoned WWII sim enthusiast...yet here we are, all still playing Aces High.

No different than a single control panel for your sub, and then a station for a deck or AA gun (assuming we get a Type VII or a Balao-class sub) which was most early WWII sub sims - yet they were played by tens of thousands of enthusiasts.  And it is on THEIR wishlist, not particularly ours. :D
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Re: ok..dont laugh...SUBMARINES, limited
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2018, 03:01:39 PM »
No different than a single control panel for your sub, and then a station for a deck or AA gun (assuming we get a Type VII or a Balao-class sub) which was most early WWII sub sims

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Re: ok..dont laugh...SUBMARINES, limited
« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2018, 03:51:16 PM »
Very aware of the website - I've had an account there for over a decade now... no different than most pilots would agree that pressing E to start your engine, forgetting about fuel, prop, and heat management in your aircraft isn't a whittled down experience for the seasoned WWII sim enthusiast...yet here we are, all still playing Aces High.

No different than a single control panel for your sub, and then a station for a deck or AA gun (assuming we get a Type VII or a Balao-class sub) which was most early WWII sub sims - yet they were played by tens of thousands of enthusiasts.  And it is on THEIR wishlist, not particularly ours. :D

Sub sims have evolved. I doubt many enthusiasts would like to devolve.

2003 join date here. There's a 'Fork' from Calgary, Alberta that registered in 2004? That you? :)
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Re: ok..dont laugh...SUBMARINES, limited
« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2018, 04:23:52 PM »
Mine's Fork... (ba dum dum).

My first experience at sub sims...


Subsim Join Date: 09-17-2004 - so yeah, that's me.  :)
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Re: ok..dont laugh...SUBMARINES, limited
« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2018, 04:33:14 PM »
Mine's Fork... (ba dum dum).

My first experience at sub sims...
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For a sub in WWII, that's a lot of info.  Pretty sure they didn't have windows to look out or God Mode.
Those dials remind me of the old flight sims from back in the day.    :old:

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Re: ok..dont laugh...SUBMARINES, limited
« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2018, 04:55:33 PM »
Mine's Fork... (ba dum dum).

My first experience at sub sims...
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Mine was more advanced:







It's much better now (when my mods don't crash):
















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Re: ok..dont laugh...SUBMARINES, limited
« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2018, 09:59:56 AM »


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« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2018, 10:52:32 AM »
Per OP's original request, a mini (or midget) submarine for port/coastal defense - the Italian CB class:







https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CB-class_midget_submarine

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Re: ok..dont laugh...SUBMARINES, limited
« Reply #24 on: January 17, 2018, 01:04:54 PM »
I'm more partial to the German XXVII







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Re: ok..dont laugh...SUBMARINES, limited
« Reply #25 on: January 17, 2018, 01:54:21 PM »
One of these things is not like the others .....












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Re: ok..dont laugh...SUBMARINES, limited
« Reply #26 on: January 17, 2018, 03:58:39 PM »
They're all Seahunds - I suspect the French Navy adopted post WWII version had some modifications done to it (the one on display)

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« Reply #27 on: January 17, 2018, 04:21:23 PM »
Actually, I'm talking about this:



It appears to be similar to the Hecht (Type XXVIIA, which can be confusing) which were used for training the Seehund crews. But there are differences. The diagram appears to illustrate that it has a 'mine' on its nose.


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Re: ok..dont laugh...SUBMARINES, limited
« Reply #28 on: January 17, 2018, 04:28:57 PM »

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« Reply #29 on: January 17, 2018, 05:20:03 PM »
Actually, I'm talking about this:
How did I miss that?   :o

Makes sense though...training version.

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