Current 190 pilots

[nrshida]

Does the Dora have any kryptonite aeroplane opponents? K-4 is quite fast and climbs / accelerates nicely but I suppose the Fokker can just dive away. LA7? Suppose the Dora has bigger fuel tanks. P-51D? I suppose the Dora out-climbs it?

This is one of those questions where the answer is in the problem, isn't it? If there were any 'better' planes or obviously exploitable holes then said faction would be flying them or something else respectively.

[Wiley]

Does the Dora have any kryptonite aeroplane opponents? K-4 is quite fast and climbs / accelerates nicely but I suppose the Fokker can just dive away. LA7? Suppose the Dora has bigger fuel tanks. P-51D? I suppose the Dora out-climbs it?

This is one of those questions where the answer is in the problem, isn't it? If there were any 'better' planes or obviously exploitable holes then said faction would be flying them or something else respectively.

About the only thing I've seen is another fast plane that starts with E at a higher altitude than it.  If the guy's bound and determined to run it can take an extremely long time to run one down.  He's usually found friends by the time you get to him.

Wiley.

[FESS67]

So those of you who say we should not judge, are you suggesting we just stay silent?   

[Lusche]

I first checked the date of this thread, thinking it was a necrothread from 2006 or so. 

And of course it's all about score, and how adjustments at score would make everybody suddenly play in a "better" way (whatever that may be.

But after all those years of keeping a very close look on the actual scores (analysed over 800K individual scores so far), how players actually fly and realizing again and again that most people don't have an idea how score actually works (not only in theory, but also practically), I am utterly convinced that the huge majority of players don't really care about score. Else it would not be so easy to propel your rank up by several hundred by just doing just one or two additional "special sorties" per tour. Most people just look at their score and shrug.

Yes, many players want to survive, but that's an inherent desire not coupled to score/rank. In fact, most players could rank much higher in fighters by halving their K/D in exchange for like just 50% better k/h.

To me it sounds boring to have a 9kd if your kph is .0000013.

I know this was a kind of exaggeration, but players with stats like that don't really get a good rank at all.

It's easier to stay alive than to get a high K/h, so the latter category has already more impact on the resulting rank than the former.
Also, as stated my someone else before, it also depends a lot on when you fly (easy to spend half an hour in off hours without getting some shots at an enemy), and what your own mission profile is. When you enjoy flying escort for your bomber friends long distance raids, you also get a very low k/h from it.

By the way, monthly tour winners aren't even announced on the HTC webpage anymore. Apart from being able to control CV's, there's absolutely no practical incentive anymore to get a good rank. In fact, I do believe players do care less about score than ever before, because there's no way I would have been overall #1 after 2/3rd of a tour without having a single base capture in bombers and vehicles.

[FLS]

F4u I think. I was in la7 to that day trading off.

lmao

[LilMak]

I don’t think this has anything to do with plane selection. There has been a lot more feast or famine in the MA. Either you’re getting totally raped by a horde or fighting a horde of teammates for the one red guy who engaged.

More and more players are afraid to break away from the pack. Many totally live by the pick and will only fight if you can trap them into doing so. I see it all the time. I could assign names to red icons just by watching how they function in their pack of friends. Usually, when the numbers even out, those same players disappear to another area where they can continue to use greens to set up their kills.

When I see a 38 in the stratosphere above me as I fight, I can add a tag to it and would be right way more than I should be.

When I see a 51 hovering and pouncing only when I start an engagement, missing wildly, then extending, I pretty much know who that is. (There are 3 that fit this bill off the top of my head)

When I see a Corsair on the edges of the fight waiting to attack only with bait. I can guess who that is too. Especially when said Corsair instantly runs to friendly territory/horde if you single it out.

When a see a 190 that doesn’t even come close to a red icon unless it has 10k and 400mph. Yep. I can judge who that is as well.

I don’t know what it is. As Luche alluded to, I don’t think it has as much to do with score as some would think. If I had to guess, it would be the overall skill set of the players we have. I would argue that the average skill level of current players is MUCH higher than it was 5+ years ago. You have a bunch of stone cold killers running around in the game and, to feel more competitive, they’re reverting to some pretty nooblike tactics to feel competitive. When you mix that in with the lower numbers, I feel like it contributes to the disturbing trend that two teams seem to always beating up on the third.

[Max]

So those of you who say we should not judge, are you suggesting we just stay silent?   

The comment was, how you say, cheeky 

[bustr]

Stone cold killers or a better description is long term vets with years of experience reading a fight and avoiding guns passes looking for the path of least resistance to get a kill and not get killed.

It's caused me this week to turn off tracers and pull my convergence out to 400. Inside of 400 it's obvious my target is holding a mapped 6 view button waiting for the first tracer flash then they pop their signature evasive move. So I guess it will be more assists but, at least I'm getting something for shooting farther away. And then they are gone or running to 5 friends.

This is part of the reason I'm closing the field spacing from 25miles to 19miles trying to get more players together sooner on my terrains. It's actually easier to aim the 37mm in the IL2 without tracers, who-da figured...

[The Fugitive]

I dont know, looking at the top 10 fighter guys so far this month you see a number of those pick boi's there. They may not be going for the top over all spot but Im sure they look to keep it up there in fighters. Another angle may be just the "name in lights" with big counts. After all the "Atta-boys" that flood the radio show people are watching for them. Maybe that recognition is what they are after more than enjoying the "fight".

[FX1]

Shawk was the best at playing the score game. It wouldn't take much to improve your score of you knew how to game the game.

It's easy to tell a players style and overall ability with just three stats. The best guys have a kd of around 5 with a kph of over .031 and a high hit %. That shows a agresive player that mixes it up and come out alive.

Also their some guys that don't care so the numbers can be off. Even those guys will have two of the three numbers well above average.

I do believe the odds of running into a good stock is super high with the current amount of players. Being timid keeps you alive with a pool full of sharks. For me a rather die in a 5 on 1 then fly around for hours. Also some guys have all day to play which allows you to pick their fights.

Rants are rants and it's me being frustrated with some 190 pilots growing a pair. It kills my buzz then I log.

[DmonSlyr]

Most people who fly the 190D are not flying it for score. They are flying it to stay alive. It's not even about K/D. It's about not getting picked and ganged. The planes best advantage keeps it from getting in those situations most of the time. It's a great plane for beginners because you don't need to turn tight to get out of trouble, you don't have to have great SA, you can dive away at 560mph. You can climb away, and you can accelerate away. It also has Cannons which do make a difference.  Once a player becomes better at the MA, and undertsands the plane better, they can avoid trouble and be very difficult to catch and kill. Speed is the single greatest advantage. Ammo is the second.

I agree with Lusche on a lot of his points regarding rank. I don't think that many try for rank. You do have to understand the game a little bit to score high. Some players naturally score high in in certain ranks of the game. I personally think it greatly helps to evaluate relativity. It helps to increase your understanding of the mechanics to the game. Trying to achieve a better score will make you better at the game, in mechanical aspects.  Some people say they don't help their team. I'd disagree with that. Most people simply don't care. Most vets who have been playing for years don't care. Some score high every month because their style of playing the game relates relatively higher than most players. You will find that without score, you can never measure true mechanics that can help you perform better. I like that it starts over every month.

Going back to the main point. The 190D has great fighter advantages for the MA. Most people should be more aggressive, but the 190D actually doesnt make players fly aggressively, it makes for slower fights because they know if they turn they are dead. It ruins the incentive to want to fight. Too many players in a 190D is like watching paint dry for a reason. 

[FLS]

Rants are rants and it's me being frustrated ...

Just fly something people want to attack.   

[Oldman731]

I am utterly convinced that the huge majority of players don't really care about score.

I am very happy to hear this.  For so long I have feared that I was alone, out in a field, in the rain, and cold.

- oldman

[mthrockmor]

I think most simply dream of landing 5 kills and getting lots of salutes, because most don't experience that.

Oh, I'll strap on my A5 and fight anybody, and spank most of you. Ain't brag'n if it's true.

Boo

PS Where is Pervert?!

[JOACH1M]

I’m a German A/C player. Anything with an iron cross I fly it. In my opinion the D9 should be perked 2-7 perks and the k4 should be 5 perk. In the main arena no airplane can’t compete climb and speed wise. Spit14 can’t handle what either plane can throw maneuver wise.