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Air Combat USA
« on: February 04, 2018, 12:47:04 PM »
Have any of you guys flown with Air Combat USA?  It's time to start checking off some items on the bucket list and doing this has always been near the top of the list.

Yays or nays, let me know.
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Re: Air Combat USA
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2018, 01:45:21 PM »
Yes, against another AHer back around 2002.  Loved it and would love to go again.

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Re: Air Combat USA
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2018, 05:04:25 PM »
Have any of you guys flown with Air Combat USA?  It's time to start checking off some items on the bucket list and doing this has always been near the top of the list.

Yays or nays, let me know.


I did, back around 2002.  I have an account around here, somewhere.  Pricey, but an unforgettable experience.  Highly recommended.

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« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2018, 05:14:01 PM »
According to their FAQ it's only for skinny dwarfs  :old:
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« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2018, 06:36:58 PM »
According to their FAQ it's only for skinny dwarfs  :old:






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Re: Air Combat USA
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2018, 07:40:42 PM »
Have any of you guys flown with Air Combat USA?  It's time to start checking off some items on the bucket list and doing this has always been near the top of the list.

Yays or nays, let me know.

Yes I did back in 2007 when I retired from airline flying.

If I remember correctly, you have extensive real world flying experience so I can assure you, you will love it!
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« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2018, 10:54:45 PM »
I did.

It was absolutely worthwhile.

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Re: Air Combat USA
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2018, 09:02:59 AM »


I'm 6'3 250ish  :confused: lbs.... Would I make the cut? No real flying experience other than on the knee of grampa with his Cessna 172... awhile ago.  :embarrassed:
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Re: Air Combat USA
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2018, 11:43:07 AM »


I'm 6'3 250ish  :confused: lbs.... Would I make the cut? No real flying experience other than on the knee of grampa with his Cessna 172... awhile ago.  :embarrassed:

As an AH player, you might do better than a pilot with lots of real flying time but no ACM knowledge.  They are fine taking up folks who don't have real flying experience.

As for the size and weight, you can call them or e-mail them and ask.  Is probably fine, but doesn't hurt to ask.

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Re: Air Combat USA
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2018, 12:05:16 PM »
As an AH player, you might do better than a pilot with lots of real flying time but no ACM knowledge. 

In the youtube vids I've watched most of the folks would be easy meat.  They have been non pilots and VERY gentle on the controls and almost none of them keep sight of the target.
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Re: Air Combat USA
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2018, 12:06:05 PM »
Now I've just got to juggle the schedule around cancer treatment and surgery.  :devil
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Re: Air Combat USA
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2018, 12:33:20 PM »
If you get it to within a 90 day window somewhere or a particular location, let me know. I’m itching to go again.

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Re: Air Combat USA
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2018, 12:38:19 PM »
I went with two other guys.  One was an online flyer like me, with lots and lots of time in Air Warrior (this was back in the 1990's), but not much real flying time.  The other was a commercially rated pilot with about 3000 hours of flying time, but not much aerobatic time and no Air Warrior time.

I had flown some in Cessna 152's (up to the point of soloing out to the practice area).  The other AW guy had nearly zero time in real planes.  The two of us stomped the commercially rated pilot, though.

I found flying the Marchetti to be a lot like flying in Air Warrior, and we did all the same moves we'd do in Air Warrior:  high yo yo's, Immelmanns, split s'es, max-g turns, vertical persuits, etc.

I even got beat in one of my fights with the Air Warrior guy after battling to a stalemate of a circle fight on the hard deck.  With neither of us gaining on the other, his instructor let him pop some flaps, and he came around and got me.  I didn't know we were allowed to mess with the flaps, but I was amused to find even that standard move worked as it did on-line.

The only downside for me was that, by the end, I was very air sick.  I didn't puke, but only barely.

I even got to experience a blackout.  I didn't have any trouble with 4-5 g's, which we pulled at times.  However --

The Air Combat USA folks worked us in early before they normally start for the day, as it was the only time we could make it.  At the end of the series of combats, we had to hurry back to land to get ready for the next group.  So we flew at max speed back to the airport, where the instructor pilot takes back over to land the plane.  And just like you do it in AH, he came racing in at top speed, then chopped throttle and slammed it into a max-g 360 turn to slow it down then land.

The problem was that he didn't tell me he was going to do that.  He didn't say, "By the way, I'm going to pull a lot of g's here in a second, so make sure to tighten up".  One moment we were cruising toward the field, and then he just flicked it into a max-g turn.  I didn't tense up.

My vision went just like in AH when you slam on too many g's:  black came racing in from the edges of vision, and then -- boop -- solid black, and I was out.  It took about 1-2 seconds.

I woke up to the sound of the g limit alarm blaring, so I know he pulled at least 6 g's.

Everything -- even being able to experience the blackout -- was a great experience.

It gave me a great appreciation for how accurate and realistic AH is.

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Re: Air Combat USA
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2018, 12:52:28 AM »
Brooke I think you better send them a note, you deserve a commission for that post! I'd love to try it sometime but I would have to do a few months of playground training, my stomach is cast paper mache and besides the embarrassment the coverage I get when the spew sprays out through the fingers of the hand I have clamped over my mouth is quite thorough and scent-full. Its not the kind of thing it is worth apologizing for cause you just can't.
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Re: Air Combat USA
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2018, 01:47:58 AM »
It might be that dramamine or some such would eliminate air sickness.  I haven't tried that, though, so can't say from experience.