Is that a RATO in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?

[Canspec]

plane is well done.....train engine looks good too......nice......

[Spikes]

Too bad they didn't remove the cannon from it, like it should have been.

[lyric1]

Looks Great however.

[lyric1]

Gun pod.

Pointing the right way

[caldera]

Looks awesome but should not have rear cannons.  Is there any evidence proving that it did?  Sure seems to be evidence that it didn't. 
I want the 20mm cannon option in the F6F if this "coulda-woulda-shoulda" gun package is allowed in the game.  It was designed to carry them but didn't, just like the Ar-234B.

But what is the pistol in the cockpit for?  Flare gun or some weird way to eject the canopy?

[Lusche]

But what is the pistol in the cockpit for?  Flare gun or some weird way to eject the canopy?

Flare gun.

[croduh]

Very nice, looking forward to flying it!

[lyric1]

Is there any evidence proving that it did?  Sure seems to be evidence that it didn't. 

Contacted the Smithsonian some years back.



Actually there was two AR-234's with rear facing guns both prototypes.
Never have found a photo of a B model with any gun ports all the newer books only list two prototypes had rear facing guns and both were c models.
These are the only photos I have seen with gun ports.

[lyric1]

Our German speaking friends can check the hand book fairly certain nothing in it about rear guns.

http://en.calameo.com/read/00344710398f622786f64

[Lusche]

Our German speaking friends can check the hand book fairly certain nothing in it about rear guns.

http://en.calameo.com/read/00344710398f622786f64

Indeed, nothing about any guns.
Possibly the deleted section 8A was originally meant to describe guns. (entfällt = "no longer applicable")

I find the evidence very conclusive. The new Arado should not feature the rear guns anymore.

[lyric1]

Indeed, nothing about any guns.
Possibly the deleted section 8A was originally meant to describe guns. (entfällt = "no longer applicable")

I find the evidence very conclusive. The new Arado should not feature the rear guns anymore.

Just to pile on some more and its not conclusive evidence regarding my email conversation but I do believe it helps my point.
Some years ago I contacted a former AR-234B ferrying pilot by the name of Mr Wilhelm Ludwig Kreissmann who happened to have flown the only surviving AR-234B left that is now at the Smithsonian.

His biography here.

http://kriessmann.carolynyeager.net/articles/life-wlk

"A few days later, I again escaped the furor of the marauding allied fighter planes. This time it was not in the air but on the ground. I received the order to pick up an AR 234 at the airport at Lübeck and had to take the train. Two Lightnings strafed the train. With all the other passengers, I ditched into the field. Luckily no one was hurt and the train remained intact. I landed with the F1+CA safely again in Kaltenkirchen. The same afternoon – April 30 – Sergeant Drew, 8th squadron, attacked with the F1 Soviet tanks east of Berlin. As it turned out, my flight the next day, May 1, 1945, from Kaltenkirchen to Leck-Flensburg with the F1+GR was my last “glorious” action as a Luftwaffen pilot. Three days later, the war was over. A Canadian tank division surrounded the airfield and the rest of our group moved into tents in the forest edging the airfield. On May 4th, before the armistice silenced all guns at 8 a.m., six of our AR 234s, amongst them three which I had ferried to KG 76, were ordered to fly to Stavanger Sola/Norway, to expect further directives from there. A very mysterious event."

From an interview he had done.

"The Arado had no weapons."

http://www.evanflys.com/willi_kriessmann

My questions to him.



His reply.

[FLS]

Mr Kriessmann also said the Arados he delivered lacked reconnaissance and bombing equipment so he was ferrying unfinished aircraft.

[lyric1]

Mr Kriessmann also said the Arados he delivered lacked reconnaissance and bombing equipment so he was ferrying unfinished aircraft.

So you didn't understand the red text he delivered a AR 234b to KG 76 and the base was captured by Canadian tanks and a total of three planes he had flown to this combat group were taken by the allies.

[Mister Fork]

Ok, I've searched all my references on the AR-234B.  The defensive weapon system (copied from the Do-217) was meant to use with the periscope for rear firing. I cannot find anything that they indeed used this option on any combat operational Arado's. No photo's of it installed, no photo's of rear firing tests. No photo's of even the forward firing option - though I do have a picture of the nose radar on the glass but nothing else. No mention on any logs or pilot records of the Ar-234 of them firing any guns...other than to simply take-off, fly, bomb, fly back and avoid P-47 and P-51 stragglers looking for an easy kill on landing. We have no historical records available online to show the AR-234 had ever used them in any operational role.

Heck, I don't even think the Periscope was ever looked in...giving it's position in the cockpit, the average pilot would have to unbuckle himself and partly stand up just to look into it.

So, if someone feels inclined and wish to have them removed, they need to post in the wishlist that they want the AR-234 de-gunned.

I for one don't really give two farts. They're kinda useless.

[FLS]

So you didn't understand the red text he delivered a AR 234b to KG 76 and the base was captured by Canadian tanks and a total of three planes he had flown to this combat group were taken buy the allies..

Why do you think that?