Author Topic: Is that a RATO in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?  (Read 2957 times)

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Re: Is that a RATO in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?
« Reply #30 on: February 26, 2018, 04:51:53 PM »
Why do you think that?

Active combat groups stationed in Holland have no use for an aircraft with no BZA bombing computer periscope that worked with that computer bomb racks and the level flight bomb sight as well.

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Re: Is that a RATO in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?
« Reply #31 on: February 26, 2018, 05:24:03 PM »
My question is why the heck are we debating it? It's a perk plane and few pilots can use the darn things anyway so whats the point.
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Re: Is that a RATO in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?
« Reply #32 on: February 26, 2018, 05:35:54 PM »
My question is why the heck are we debating it? It's a perk plane and few pilots can use the darn things anyway so whats the point.

More to the point, what about the illegal perks NKL5 claimed, using an illegitimate 20 mm cannon?  :x :bolt:

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Re: Is that a RATO in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?
« Reply #33 on: February 26, 2018, 05:45:38 PM »
Active combat groups stationed in Holland have no use for an aircraft with no BZA bombing computer periscope that worked with that computer bomb racks and the level flight bomb sight as well.

That doesn't change the fact that he was a ferry pilot who said the aircraft were incomplete when he flew them. That's not saying he never flew anything else but he's careful ,just like the Smithsonian response, to only speak of the aircraft he had direct experience with.

Don't you suppose the mechanics could mount equipment?


If the pilots who received aircraft with cannons mounted had them removed after trying them once wouldn't that be a field mod?  :devil

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Re: Is that a RATO in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?
« Reply #34 on: February 26, 2018, 06:07:26 PM »
That doesn't change the fact that he was a ferry pilot who said the aircraft were incomplete when he flew them. That's not saying he never flew anything else but he's careful ,just like the Smithsonian response, to only speak of the aircraft he had direct experience with.

Don't you suppose the mechanics could mount equipment?


If the pilots who received aircraft with cannons mounted had them removed after trying them once wouldn't that be a field mod?  :devil

Since you never did buy the books that I asked you to read from the other thread on this topic its pointless trying to explain who what and where things were done with these aircraft.

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Re: Is that a RATO in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?
« Reply #35 on: February 26, 2018, 06:37:41 PM »
Lucky break.  :D

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Re: Is that a RATO in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?
« Reply #36 on: February 26, 2018, 11:51:42 PM »

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To me the cannons are less of an issue than the ability to hang on to the RATO units to get an emergency speed boost. I'd like to see them separate automatically at speeds of over say 250 mph.

Anything in the handbook regarding Greebo's point on the RATO Lusche?


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Re: Is that a RATO in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?
« Reply #37 on: February 27, 2018, 01:13:51 AM »
This pretty much says it all. The 234 in AH is a fantasy aircraft that never existed in reality.

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Re: Is that a RATO in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?
« Reply #38 on: February 27, 2018, 04:25:33 AM »
This pretty much says it all. The 234 in AH is a fantasy aircraft that never existed in reality.

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That's not what it says. It just references the Smith and Creek book. Nothing new there.

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Re: Is that a RATO in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?
« Reply #39 on: February 27, 2018, 06:44:27 AM »
I think there's bigger fish to fry than arguing about a perked bomber that has guns that only 3 people in the game know how to use. Not to mention it got heavily nerfed with the F3 mode change.
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Re: Is that a RATO in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?
« Reply #40 on: February 27, 2018, 07:32:51 AM »
^^^^this.

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Re: Is that a RATO in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?
« Reply #41 on: February 27, 2018, 10:07:33 AM »
My question is why the heck are we debating it? It's a perk plane and few pilots can use the darn things anyway so whats the point.

It's not about nerfing a plane. It's about the correct historic representation of a model. And when a model is redone, it's always a good moment to correct any errors found. It would not be the first time.


Anything in the handbook regarding Greebo's point on the RATO Lusche?

No. But then, it's just the handbook for the ground crew servicing the plane (that's also why there isn't any performance data included).
I would expect more information about flight parameters in the pilots handbook ("Bedienungsvorschrift/Fl")
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Re: Is that a RATO in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?
« Reply #42 on: February 27, 2018, 06:15:52 PM »
It's not about nerfing a plane. It's about the correct historic representation of a model. And when a model is redone, it's always a good moment to correct any errors found. It would not be the first time.


In that case Lusche I want the Bendix lower turret on my B25.  :D

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Re: Is that a RATO in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?
« Reply #43 on: February 28, 2018, 01:57:21 AM »


No. But then, it's just the handbook for the ground crew servicing the plane (that's also why there isn't any performance data included).
I would expect more information about flight parameters in the pilots handbook ("Bedienungsvorschrift/Fl")

Only thing I have found is take off distances.


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Re: Is that a RATO in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?
« Reply #44 on: March 02, 2018, 05:07:29 PM »
Doesn't look like a Beaufighter... :bolt:
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