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Offline Mister Fork

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Reinstalling Windows 10 Pro
« on: February 28, 2018, 09:40:11 AM »
Anyone do this to their computer?

Apart from opening a drawer, shoving my hand in it and slamming it shut a few times, would you:

a) Wipe the computer fresh and do a clean install of Win10Pro or..
b) Reinstall over the existing OS. 

I know the real answer should always be a), but I'm talking about a computer OS that I've hacked and kept healthy for 10 years as I went from Win 7 (2008) to Win 10.  The pain I'm looking at is not going to be pleasant.

I have Windows 10 Pro N installed on two gaming machines in our house and I just found out Windows Pro N is NOT Microsoft VR compatible.

FML  :(
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Re: Reinstalling Windows 10 Pro
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2018, 11:04:57 AM »
I know it is more work, but installing the OS on a freshly formatted hard drive will always give you the best results.
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Re: Reinstalling Windows 10 Pro
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2018, 11:45:09 AM »
As far as I understand the "new" reinstall method since Win8, started from the Settings or the Recovery Environment, pretty much is a clean install if you choose the longer method wiping all your data off. Even the data saving option leaves a cleaner Windows than the one upgraded from 7. However, the wipe-all method doesn't take much less time than a clean installation destroying every system partition etc. so that's as viable an option.
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Re: Reinstalling Windows 10 Pro
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2018, 04:55:45 PM »
Either way, having teeth pulled with no Novocaine is a more pleasant ordeal. That being said, I have always opted for a full wipe and reinstall, to insure that drivers, etc are loaded in the order I want, and other things. You never know with a partial redo, IMHO.
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Re: Reinstalling Windows 10 Pro
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2018, 05:27:16 PM »
You can "Reset" Windows 10. It's the fastest way to get back to a clean install. The reset process has always been smooth on the official release version. Since moving to Windows 10 I keep the various 'important' Libraries (Documents, Pictures, and so on) on different drives so that a reset doesn't erase them. Windows allows you to move them, and it really does help keep your system snappy.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/12415/windows-10-recovery-options
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Re: Reinstalling Windows 10 Pro
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2018, 06:12:41 PM »
Nice to know.  ^^^^^^^

OP:

1) Slam Hand in Drawer.
2) Clean Install.

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Re: Reinstalling Windows 10 Pro
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2018, 04:59:10 PM »
Quote from: Chalenge on February 28, 2018, 05:27:16 PM
You can "Reset" Windows 10. It's the fastest way to get back to a clean install. The reset process has always been smooth on the official release version. Since moving to Windows 10 I keep the various 'important' Libraries (Documents, Pictures, and so on) on different drives so that a reset doesn't erase them. Windows allows you to move them, and it really does help keep your system snappy.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/12415/windows-10-recovery-options
Microsoft told me that the reset would just "reset" to a clean Win10ProN install, not Win10Pro... I'll test it on one machine (have to do mine and my sons).
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Re: Reinstalling Windows 10 Pro
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2018, 09:46:02 PM »
Quote from: Mister Fork on March 01, 2018, 04:59:10 PM
Microsoft told me that the reset would just "reset" to a clean Win10ProN install, not Win10Pro... I'll test it on one machine (have to do mine and my sons).

What if you installed a Windows 10 Pro version over top of the Windows 10 Pro N version, would it possibly negate the N versions differences?   (just thinking out loud, haven't researched any about it)

Your best option in my thoughts is a thorough cleaning deep format and installing a Fresh installation of Windows 10 Pro....

Best of luck to you....

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Re: Reinstalling Windows 10 Pro
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2018, 04:29:55 AM »
TC, that might well work!

The way I would perform such an operation is to download the Tool from Microsoft: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 and "upgrade" windows to the existing version from within Windows, saving your files if preferred.

Another option would be to create a more generic installation media using the same Tool, per the instructions "for a different PC". Even the I'd start the installation from Windows as an update.

I'm not sure whether either of those procedures would allow you to wipe all of the existing partitions after the reboot, but even that might be an option.

At the last steps of the installation, if you see a window asking you to check your "security" settings, DON'T choose the recommended option! Find the link to modify them and deselect all. Each one is just asking if you would like to share your life with Microsoft.
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Re: Reinstalling Windows 10 Pro
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2018, 11:33:41 AM »
I lead you to water, but I cannot make you drink.

I would use different drives to offload your libraries (the stuff everyone loses when they clean install) to different drive locations. Then, install Windows 10 Pro to a new drive without overwriting your N version (you know, just in case). Then "move" the libraries of the fresh install to the libraries drive(s).

No muss, no fuss, nothing lost.
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Re: Reinstalling Windows 10 Pro
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2018, 02:07:17 PM »
Quote from: Chalenge on March 03, 2018, 11:33:41 AM
I lead you to water, but I cannot make you drink.

I would use different drives to offload your libraries (the stuff everyone loses when they clean install) to different drive locations. Then, install Windows 10 Pro to a new drive without overwriting your N version (you know, just in case). Then "move" the libraries of the fresh install to the libraries drive(s).

No muss, no fuss, nothing lost.


Completely Agree with you...

My previous post was just a wondering thought ...

Ever since Fork posted that he won't be able to use VR gear on his PCs that have Windows 10 Pro N 64bit OS installed on them, has got me wondering if the 2 different PCs that I have been testing/reviewing Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB 64bit OS on.... Wondering if I will run into the same problem?

I just have not had the chance to check it out and compare the differences....


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Re: Reinstalling Windows 10 Pro
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2018, 10:05:59 PM »
Followed your advice Chalenge - moved to another drive, deleted partition, installed fresh OS install, copied back over files.

Wait is weird yet nice is that Aces High runs right out of the install folder - no need to reinstall - only lost HOTAS keymappings but I say 'good riddance' to the Saitek Keymapper.  :neener:

Onto the Acer VR headset  :x

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Re: Reinstalling Windows 10 Pro
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2018, 04:59:42 AM »
VR is a tool of the devil  :old:

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Re: Reinstalling Windows 10 Pro
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2018, 08:46:34 AM »
Quote from: zack1234 on March 04, 2018, 04:59:42 AM
VR is a tool of the devil  :old:
but man is it fun, and sometimes it tastes like bacon
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Re: Reinstalling Windows 10 Pro
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2018, 09:42:53 AM »
Ok - from start to finish from blowing away the partition on the SSD to full reinstall of OS Win10Pro, to using my Microsoft account (which btw caches the OS key + settings and links it to your account), reinstalling Office 2013, downloading AH (even though the game works in the directory without a reinstall), downloading a couple of my fav games, it was just 2 hours. That blew me away on how fast it is. And that includes installing and setting up Windows Mixed Reality and SteamVR.

Before, loose a hard drive and do a reinstall, we're talking a weekend project and a couple week nights before it's 100%.  But my Gmail account caches my Chrome, MS caches my Win10Pro preferences and OS settings (all except my screensaver), and I don't have any local mail clients as I'm using Gmail and iCloud. I also didn't install JAVA. What games uses Java anyways? NONE. Only Adobe product I installed was Acrobat Reader - and that took 4 minutes.

God I love SSD's. 2 hours. Unreal.
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