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Offline BFOOT1

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VF-3 F4F?
« on: February 28, 2018, 09:54:47 AM »
Any chance of getting a VF-3 F4F? I'm working on a midway setup, and I'm just curious if anyone would be willing to do another Midway F4F.  :salute
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Re: VF-3 F4F?
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2018, 10:59:09 AM »
Like these ones?
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Re: VF-3 F4F?
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2018, 11:14:30 AM »
Yes! I'd love to see more Midway skins in general just for more representation!
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Re: VF-3 F4F?
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2018, 02:01:17 PM »
I can skin a Midway VF-3 Wildcat fairly easily, its essentially the same scheme as the default aircraft. A few more photos of them would be handy though if anyone has some.

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Re: VF-3 F4F?
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2018, 03:24:32 PM »
I'll see what I can dig up
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Re: VF-3 F4F?
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2018, 03:26:19 PM »


Now to find a real life picture
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Re: VF-3 F4F?
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2018, 03:29:25 PM »
Verified paint schele from Ed O'Hare from Fateful Rendezvous: The Life of Butch O'Hare http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1557502471/ref=nosim/usaceofworwartwo  - Pre-midway...paint scheme from January - May.  Then they were painted the lighter blue before the BoMidway began.

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Re: VF-3 F4F?
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2018, 03:30:54 PM »
Thach AND O'Hare...really cool photo (pre-midway)
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Re: VF-3 F4F?
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2018, 03:35:23 PM »
Three independent historical websites have this as Thach's paint scheme for Midway... pictures are near identical but difference sources yet the numbering from the aircraft is white yet the photos from the battle show black lettering for VF-8 yet VF-3 is white? :headscratch:
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Re: VF-3 F4F?
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2018, 03:41:52 PM »
And the picture higher above is VF-8 about to take off from Yorktown. USN file photo.
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Re: VF-3 F4F?
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2018, 03:43:48 PM »
Not sure why the aircraft numbers are black - VF-8 - would the squadrons differ from standard USN numbering? June 4th file photo.

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Re: VF-3 F4F?
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2018, 03:48:47 PM »
Another reference to Thach's Felix the Cat.

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Re: VF-3 F4F?
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2018, 07:12:35 AM »
I appreciate the effort here guys, means a lot!
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Re: VF-3 F4F?
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2018, 10:43:08 AM »
I have an aversion to creating a skin based on just a profile, as if there are no photos of the aircraft available (particularly if its a well-known ace) the artist just makes an educated guess. Usable photos of a Midway VF-3 F4F seem to be in short supply, there are none in any books I have, just one or two close-ups showing the canopy and kill markings. F-23 in the VF-8 photo in this thread would make a good subject as would the number 9 or 13 aircraft in Mister Fork's photo assuming these are actually VF-3 Midway aircraft. What is the source of the photo and is there a caption to go with it?

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Re: VF-3 F4F?
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2018, 12:02:30 PM »
Greebo, are you able to duplicate the red on the body of the pitot tube it being so small?
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