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Offline RODBUSTR

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Re: Loss of WEP after Refuel.
« Reply #45 on: March 29, 2018, 07:58:36 PM »
     When rearmed and refueled on the hammer head a plane should be equipped  to the same condition as when originally spawned less battle damage, period. whether one needs Wep to win or not is not the issue and if keeping a low Eny plane as long as one can, even after high ENY ratings is part of the game.  what would You want.  Just have your plane explode when the Eny rating goes up. No WEP at Refuel. Why not Give none Wep equipped   planes half the fuel and ammo loadout  to even things up..  sounds pretty silly doesn't It.    So does not getting WEP regenerated.

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Re: Loss of WEP after Refuel.
« Reply #46 on: March 29, 2018, 08:07:19 PM »
You get to fly your plane as long as you want refueling as many times as you want, no matter the ENY, you just dont get to use more WEP. Look at it as a game play concession. For some reason HTC doesnt want WEP replenished on a refuel. I think it has something to do with knocking down the advantage of extended runs. Much the same as battle damage will never get repaired on the rearm pad. You want  WEP, or a plane with no damge, end sortie and get a new one. If not, muscle through WITHOUT WEP.   

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Re: Loss of WEP after Refuel.
« Reply #47 on: March 31, 2018, 12:38:32 AM »
   I don't care. not getting WEP back  makes no common sense at all.   and to those who say You don't need WEP to play or  fight others. When other planes are the same type. it is a definate disadvantage not to have it.    sheer folly

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Re: Loss of WEP after Refuel.
« Reply #48 on: March 31, 2018, 12:41:43 AM »
    also then no WEp planes should be penalized too.

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Re: Loss of WEP after Refuel.
« Reply #49 on: March 31, 2018, 05:25:27 AM »
    also then no WEp planes should be penalized too.

Specially the Yak3, that was known to overheat IRL.


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Re: Loss of WEP after Refuel.
« Reply #50 on: March 31, 2018, 10:02:23 AM »
Ok no rearming perk planes then if you get wep refills :p

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Re: Loss of WEP after Refuel.
« Reply #51 on: April 05, 2018, 01:39:39 PM »
You get to fly your plane as long as you want refueling as many times as you want, no matter the ENY, you just dont get to use more WEP. Look at it as a game play concession. For some reason HTC doesnt want WEP replenished on a refuel. I think it has something to do with knocking down the advantage of extended runs. Much the same as battle damage will never get repaired on the rearm pad. You want  WEP, or a plane with no damge, end sortie and get a new one. If not, muscle through WITHOUT WEP.

Sorry, Fugi, this position makes no sense. I can't tell if you think it's perfect logic that WEP doesn't get 're-fueled' or if you are trying to rationalize why he should just accept it. 
The non-WEP reset seems like an error, to be honest. It makes no logical sense to single out WEP as something that can't be resupplied. ALL planes don't get repaired when damaged. But 262 can rearm all day and keep it's performance because it does't have WEP. So the goal doesn;t seem to be to limit an undamaged planes ability to re-arm. If that were the goal...there would just be a re-arm limit of 1,2, 3 etc.

The logic SEEMS to be that since there is no loss of points for battle damage, or belly landing into the runway, the "Re-Arm" is THE reward for not damaging your plane. Limiting WEP removes the reward and forces a tower out. No incentive to make a "no-damage" landing at that point.  Not sure why that's a good thing.

Like I said...seems illogical and arbitrary to me.  :salute

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Re: Loss of WEP after Refuel.
« Reply #52 on: April 05, 2018, 02:22:00 PM »
Like I said...seems illogical and arbitrary to me.  :salute

It seems it's intentional behavior though, as when AH3 came along, the maximum WEP times became enforced where before that it was only limited by cooldown.

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Re: Loss of WEP after Refuel.
« Reply #53 on: April 05, 2018, 02:31:44 PM »
There has always been a time limit on the length of time wep was allowed,it was a bug that allowed you to have basically unlimited wep,except the cool down times!

  That bug was fixed in AH3,so it is what it is!   I assume as Ackack said it's a game concession!



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PS: somewhere there's a chart of the time limits and cool down times.

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Re: Loss of WEP after Refuel.
« Reply #54 on: April 05, 2018, 02:53:14 PM »
There has always been a time limit on the length of time wep was allowed,it was a bug that allowed you to have basically unlimited wep,except the cool down times!

  That bug was fixed in AH3,so it is what it is!   I assume as Ackack said it's a game concession!



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PS: somewhere there's a chart of the time limits and cool down times.

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Re: Loss of WEP after Refuel.
« Reply #55 on: April 05, 2018, 03:55:49 PM »
Sorry, Fugi, this position makes no sense. I can't tell if you think it's perfect logic that WEP doesn't get 're-fueled' or if you are trying to rationalize why he should just accept it. 
The non-WEP reset seems like an error, to be honest. It makes no logical sense to single out WEP as something that can't be resupplied. ALL planes don't get repaired when damaged. But 262 can rearm all day and keep it's performance because it does't have WEP. So the goal doesn;t seem to be to limit an undamaged planes ability to re-arm. If that were the goal...there would just be a re-arm limit of 1,2, 3 etc.

The logic SEEMS to be that since there is no loss of points for battle damage, or belly landing into the runway, the "Re-Arm" is THE reward for not damaging your plane. Limiting WEP removes the reward and forces a tower out. No incentive to make a "no-damage" landing at that point.  Not sure why that's a good thing.

Like I said...seems illogical and arbitrary to me.  :salute

It doesn't have to make sense to mere mortals like us, it is a game concession HTC wants and so we have it. My GUESS at the reason is that they dont want planes that have the advantage of WEP to be able to use it continuously and so limit the reload for it.

If you want the "real" reason why, call Hitech.

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Re: Loss of WEP after Refuel.
« Reply #56 on: April 06, 2018, 07:29:40 AM »
It doesn't have to make sense to mere mortals like us, it is a game concession HTC wants and so we have it. My GUESS at the reason is that they dont want planes that have the advantage of WEP to be able to use it continuously and so limit the reload for it.

If you want the "real" reason why, call Hitech.

I'm sure he's listening.  :noid

Perhaps he'll explain the logic of it.  :salute
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Re: Loss of WEP after Refuel.
« Reply #57 on: April 06, 2018, 08:58:31 AM »
This is no different than the concession to give the MA a fuel burn of 2.0

Since you know how the "rules" are coded, simply play within their constraints my friends :)

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Re: Loss of WEP after Refuel.
« Reply #58 on: April 06, 2018, 03:14:04 PM »
A bit of a sidetrack but ill give it a shot
Can i reduce WEP cooldown time? If i reduce power will my engine cool faster then in full military power?

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Re: Loss of WEP after Refuel.
« Reply #59 on: April 06, 2018, 03:19:06 PM »
A bit of a sidetrack but ill give it a shot
Can i reduce WEP cooldown time? If i reduce power will my engine cool faster then in full military power?

No, all times are solid.