Author Topic: Yak crash at Warbirds Over Wanaka 2018  (Read 5674 times)

Offline OldNitro

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Re: Yak crash at Warbirds Over Wanaka 2018
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2018, 04:34:08 PM »
Oh man, that is TRAJIK :cry
An idiot could see that equipment..

I suspect an insurance scam!
The NKVD would MAKE HIM CONFESS!

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Re: Yak crash at Warbirds Over Wanaka 2018
« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2018, 05:12:10 PM »
I Think he landed with to much speed and had no rudder control on the ground with that speed. He was prolly paranoid and didn't want to push down on the nose to gain rudder control to steer left at the speed he was going. Prolly thought he would end up in a 360 on the ground and with all the thinking that was going on in his head he just didn't know what to do.

It seems that you may have a limited understanding of how to control an airplane.


More speed equates to greater control authority.

You can tell he wasn't too fast since he was nose high and settled to the ground vs the typical Aces High player landing of driving the airplane onto the ground.

Pushing the nose down will help you see over the nose but doesn't really do anything to allow you to "gain rudder control".  Many tail draggers can have a reduction if rudder control as the tail drops due to the wing/fuselage blanking out flow over the rudder.  Quite often you want to fly the tail down at an appropriate speed to get the tail wheel on the ground to aid in directional control as the airplane slows.

I never met a good pilot that wasn't thinking about the "what ifs" but doing so doesn't interfere with decision making.
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Re: Yak crash at Warbirds Over Wanaka 2018
« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2018, 05:19:37 PM »
Well he must of had to much vodka

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Re: Yak crash at Warbirds Over Wanaka 2018
« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2018, 06:09:58 PM »

An idiot could see that equipment..



Have a lot of time in a Yak-3 do you?
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Re: Yak crash at Warbirds Over Wanaka 2018
« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2018, 08:28:19 PM »
Have a lot of time in a Yak-3 do you?

Burn.   :rofl
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Re: Yak crash at Warbirds Over Wanaka 2018
« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2018, 06:14:22 AM »
Have a lot of time in a Yak-3 do you?

Pilots are responsible for safely landing the plane, right???
Then an idiot is sitting in the seat of that wrecked plane..

He had the birds eye view, and hands on the controls..
He could just as easily, picked a safer line, but he didn't!

And YES, he should have seen that equipment, too close
to the landing area, before he even touched down..
Plenty of room to port, no need to play thread the needle!

And he throws a thumbs up, after his total foolishness,  :rofl

Don't need any time in type, to notice the flamingly obvious!
Now somebody has a nice fat insurance claim.. I hope!
At least nobody died!

We need a Facepalm emoticon!

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Re: Yak crash at Warbirds Over Wanaka 2018
« Reply #21 on: April 05, 2018, 08:34:15 AM »
A lot of assumptions.

Birds eye view?  You've never sat in an old taildragger it seems.

I'm guessing he was aware of the equipment.  He might have been uncomfortable with the proximity of the equipment to the landing area but elected to "go on with the show".  You point out that he had room to the left but from the pilots viewpoint that can be very difficult to determine.  You can't see straight ahead and have to use the views to either side to judge how "centered" you are.  Next time you're out driving raise the hood on your car and drive using the views out of your side windows the expound on how easy it is. :)

Of course he did a thumbs up, he was letting others know that he was okay.

Without time in type what seem obvious may not be and there may be many other factors you need flight experience to be aware of.

No doubt some poor decisions were made.  Silly to have that equipment parked there.  Without being there I'm not going to point fingers.
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Re: Yak crash at Warbirds Over Wanaka 2018
« Reply #22 on: April 05, 2018, 08:42:26 AM »
So, I guess he was too blind to see the landing area, BEFORE he flared out???

I personally, would take notice of this, before committing to that course of action  :joystick:
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Re: Yak crash at Warbirds Over Wanaka 2018
« Reply #23 on: April 05, 2018, 09:16:53 AM »
An AH3 Yak3  would ruin that obstacle and it would only be in need for a small paintjob.  :D


 
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Re: Yak crash at Warbirds Over Wanaka 2018
« Reply #24 on: April 05, 2018, 09:33:44 AM »
Within a wingspan it seems.  :devil

Half a wingspan  :old:
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Re: Yak crash at Warbirds Over Wanaka 2018
« Reply #25 on: April 05, 2018, 10:04:23 AM »
So, I guess he was too blind to see the landing area, BEFORE he flared out???

I personally, would take notice of this, before committing to that course of action  :joystick:

You go show us how it's done.  We'll wait. 
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Re: Yak crash at Warbirds Over Wanaka 2018
« Reply #26 on: April 05, 2018, 10:15:35 AM »
So, I guess he was too blind to see the landing area, BEFORE he flared out???

I personally, would take notice of this, before committing to that course of action  :joystick:

Perhaps you should get an hour of flight time in the real thing.  Stallion51 in Florida will give you a real life exposure to the P-51.  The very limited forward visibility on the ground in the three point attitude is impressive.  Go do that and report your impressions back to us.  Enjoy the flight!  You’ll never regret doing it. 



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Re: Yak crash at Warbirds Over Wanaka 2018
« Reply #27 on: April 05, 2018, 10:36:53 AM »
You go show us how it's done.  We'll wait.

LOL, what you think doesn't matter, I'm not seeking your approval..

I've made thousands of quick decisions with my and others lives hanging in the balance.. I gimp when the weather changes, and bear the scars, from my or others errors too.. "Stuff" happens when ya throw a bike sideways at 100+ mph, and others are inches away!

That's how it is when ya race TT and Flat track for most of a lifetime.. I have a collection of twisted handlebars, and helmets with tire tracks on the wall of my workshop..

I spent some time in Texas when in the US Army, back in the 70's.. Went to Harlingen to visit the Confederate Airforce.. Paid for a ride in one of the Peruvian P47N's they had there.. I've had that experience already..

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Re: Yak crash at Warbirds Over Wanaka 2018
« Reply #28 on: April 05, 2018, 10:51:27 AM »
LOL, what you think doesn't matter, I'm not seeking your approval..

I've made thousands of quick decisions with my and others lives hanging in the balance.. I gimp when the weather changes, and bear the scars, from my or others errors too.. "Stuff" happens when ya throw a bike sideways at 100+ mph, and others are inches away!

That's how it is when ya race TT and Flat track for most of a lifetime.. I have a collection of twisted handlebars, and helmets with tire tracks on the wall of my workshop..

I spent some time in Texas when in the US Army, back in the 70's.. Went to Harlingen to visit the Confederate Airforce.. Paid for a ride in one of the Peruvian P47N's they had there.. I've had that experience already..

Perhaps you just need a little more practice.  :)

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Re: Yak crash at Warbirds Over Wanaka 2018
« Reply #29 on: April 05, 2018, 10:55:01 AM »
Perhaps you just need a little more practice.  :)

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