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Offline shotgunneeley

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Re: Review the B26 damage model.
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2018, 07:43:37 PM »

The B-29 totally in a leage of it's own, shooting the B-26 doesn't even come close as a challenge.  :old:



And while I'm at it... this is how  formation capable bombers did in air to air engagements in 2017:

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I don’t think a K/D chart is applicable here. It does not take into account the instances an enemy fighter disengaged from a bomber set without being able to shoot it down. The focus is determining if the B-26 is a difficult target because of it’s size/speed or because of its coded capability to absorb punishment; its ability to shoot down enemy fighters is not the issue. Also think of how they are used in the game: I see the B-26 being used for more low to mid altitude frontline tactical strikes where it is much more likely to run into trouble than the high alt strategic buffs (just my observation - no data to back it up).

Personally there is only one formation bomber in the game that makes me grit my teeth in preparing to bag it  – and that is the B-26.
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Re: Review the B26 damage model.
« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2018, 02:17:09 AM »
The one a day was before it was upgraded which fixed those issues and it became one of the best twin engine medium bombers in the war.

Here is the whole story on that.

http://www.aviation-history.com/martin/b26.html

Our version is the upgraded version which was like trying to shoot down a tank and as fast as some fighters.

Better training was the true key to improving the Marauders safety record.  The wing increase was negated by the Army increasing the gross weight.
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Re: Review the B26 damage model.
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2018, 03:05:23 AM »

The B-29 totally in a leage of it's own, shooting the B-26 doesn't even come close as a challenge.  :old:



And while I'm at it... this is how  formation capable bombers did in air to air engagements in 2017:

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Re: Review the B26 damage model.
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2018, 07:15:43 AM »
Better training was the true key to improving the Marauders safety record.  The wing increase was negated by the Army increasing the gross weight.

Great minds...   :rofl


The wing area increase got gobbled up by more equipment and payload. That wasn’t mentioned.

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Re: Review the B26 damage model.
« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2018, 07:17:18 AM »
Interesting, I did not realize KI67s were doing so well. My guess is that this is the veteran bias effect, where certain variants that are flown mostly by veteran or dedicated players produce better scores than "superior" variants that are used as kamikaze or by 2-weekers.

The 67 flies high and fast with a big tail gun.  Shooting them down isn’t worth the hassle most of the time.  If they are at medium or low altitude I’ll give them a crack, otherwise I look elsewhere. 
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Re: Review the B26 damage model.
« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2018, 10:43:36 AM »
    B17s are faster than B26s.

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Re: Review the B26 damage model.
« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2018, 11:14:35 AM »
    B17s are faster than B26s.

*Maybe* at high altitude...but not anywhere else.
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Re: Review the B26 damage model.
« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2018, 11:22:01 AM »
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Re: Review the B26 damage model.
« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2018, 04:31:38 PM »
The B-26 shouldn’t be above 15k (traditionally speaking) as it was used as a medium alt bomber 10-15k.

So at comparable alt, the 26 was faster than the 17.


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Re: Review the B26 damage model.
« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2018, 10:03:32 PM »
If I recall, it's actually the A20 that is improbably durable to enemy fire for its size.
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Re: Review the B26 damage model.
« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2018, 01:36:00 AM »
I can easily down an A20 with a 2 sec burst from an A8, (about the same as the Yak3  :D)
The B26 only looks irritated when you give it the same treatment.
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Re: Review the B26 damage model.
« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2018, 09:18:34 AM »
I can easily down an A20 with a 2 sec burst from an A8, (about the same as the Yak3  :D)
The B26 only looks irritated when you give it the same treatment.
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Re: Review the B26 damage model.
« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2018, 09:36:04 AM »
Gotta shoot those wing roots out.




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Re: Review the B26 damage model.
« Reply #28 on: May 04, 2018, 09:39:33 AM »
    Galland mostly flew the 109. and the unescorted survival rate of the B26 is not good.

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Re: Review the B26 damage model.
« Reply #29 on: May 04, 2018, 10:16:25 AM »
Interesting, I did not realize KI67s were doing so well. My guess is that this is the veteran bias effect, where certain variants that are flown mostly by veteran or dedicated players produce better scores than "superior" variants that are used as kamikaze or by 2-weekers.

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