Author Topic: Uber my arse! (Read 536 times)

Jochen · « **on:** June 27, 2000, 09:14:00 AM »

Latest K/D status:

Fw 190A-5 vs Any: 1,38 (5300+ kills)
Fw 190A-8 vs Any: 1,34 (4300+ kills)
Bf 109F-4 vs Any: 0,73 (420+ kills)
Bf 109G-2 vs Any: 0,95 (560+ kills)
Bf 109G-6 vs Any: 0,44 (270+ kills)
Bf 109G-10 vs Any: 1,14 (4300+ kills)

total: 15150+ kills

Spitfire V vs Any: 0,65 (1500+ kills)
Spitfire IX vs Any: 1,072 (10500+ kills)
Typhoon IB vs Any: 1,13 (1100+ kills)

total: 13100+ kills

La 5FN vs Any: 0,83 (1500+ kills)
Yak 9U vs Any: 0,96 (900+ kills)

total: 2400+ kills

P-38L vs Any: 0,87 (4100+ kills)
P-47D vs Any: 1,16 (2500+ kills)
P-51D vs Any: 1,17 (6900+ kills)
B-17G vs Any: 0,80 (3900+ kills)
B-26B vs Any: 0,73 (2900+ kills)
F4U-1C vs Any: 1,75 (7800+ kills)
F4U-1D vs Any: 0,50 (460+ kills)

total: 32660+ kills

A6M5b vs Any: 0,79 (1800+ kills)
N1K2 vs Any: 1,07 (6900+ kills)

total: 8700+ kills

C.202 vs Any: 0,39 (67 kills)
C.205 vs Any: 1,14 (3400+ kills)

total: 3476+ kills

M3 vs Any: 0,55 (160+ kills)
M16 vs Any: 0,69 (2700+ kills)
PzKw IVH vs Any: 1,28 (6100+ kills)

total: 8960+ kills

C-47 vs Any: 0,06 (130+ kills)

Fw 190A-5 vs F4U-1C: 0,69
Fw 190A-8 vs F4U-1C: 0,76
Fw 190A-5 vs Spitfire V: 2,94
Fw 190A-5 vs Spitfire IX: 1,39

Conclusions:

-F4U-1C is still the uberride
-Players accidentally taking up F4U-1D instead of F4U-1C are 3,5 times more likely to be killed.
-You are 1.41 times more propable to get kill in M3 than in C.202
-What uber Yak? Time before it was uber Typhoon...
-P-47D fares pretty well, maybe good pilots?

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jochen Jagdflieger JG 2 'Richthofen' Aces High
jochen Geschwaderkommodore (on leave) Jagdgeschwader 2 'Richthofen' Warbirds

Thanks for the Fw 190A-5 HTC!

Ladysmith wants you forthwith to come to her relief
Burn your briefs you leave for France tonight
Carefully cut the straps of the booby-traps and set the captives free
But don't shoot 'til you see her big blue eyes

[This message has been edited by Jochen (edited 06-27-2000).]

Dinger · « **Reply #1 on:** June 27, 2000, 10:01:00 AM »

A good refinement of those statistics would be to subtract from them the [Type] vs. [Same Type] numbers.

Fluf · « **Reply #2 on:** June 27, 2000, 10:08:00 AM »

Wow! The FW190A5 pilots have made an impressive start after only a week in action!
So have the Jug pilots after a weekend...
Fluf

Ripsnort · « **Reply #3 on:** June 27, 2000, 10:10:00 AM »

Fluf? From WB's? Oh-My-God...you boys are in for a good fight! <S> Fluf!

Sharky · « **Reply #4 on:** June 27, 2000, 10:15:00 AM »

Uber thats funny

One of the things I love about Aces High is that I don't find any of the planes to be uber.

No matter what I'm flying I don't fear any other particular aircraft I might come upon in the arena. They all have there strengths and they all heve their weakness that can be exploited by a patient attacker.

Sharky

SFRT - Frenchy · « **Reply #5 on:** June 27, 2000, 10:56:00 AM »

Those stats mean nothing as far as I'm concerned and this is why:

When a field is vulched, I grab my niki and go up till I die, usually I can't even take off. But when I fly my beloved and long awaited P47 I fly it to survive, so I don't goof around.

So applying ur stats type to me, the P47 is an ubber ride compared to the Niki who is nothing than a flying coffin.

Maybemost people who fly the F4U-C B&Z only and run when needed not to die. And why am I participating to this whining anyway? geez, i do silly things in the morning

oh and I second Sharky, same feelings.

Salute all!!!

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Toad · « **Reply #6 on:** June 27, 2000, 11:25:00 AM »

Raw stats really don't tell you much, do they?

You don't know WHO is doing most of the killing in a particular plane. It might be a relatively small percentage of "good" pilots flying one type exclusively.

You don't know the ATTITUDE of guys flying a particular plane. Some guys fly to live and some guys just fly to shoot. Some guys change attitudes day to day, camp to camp.

Raws stats also highlight a plane's basic popularity. It may have lots of kills because it gets flown the most in the arena.

In short, while the above data is interesting, it only skims the surface in showing what's going on.

Fatty · « **Reply #7 on:** June 27, 2000, 11:52:00 AM »

Yeah, the yak's low because I've been using it for ack strafing. Actually once you get used to it, it's not bad at it.

Fluf · « **Reply #8 on:** June 27, 2000, 11:54:00 AM »

~~Ripsnort, and thanks~~

. The 'boys' have been 'teaching' me the facts of life in AH - Hangtime, MajorTom, Lefto7, and most of JG2 have been toying rather roughly with me. They don't find me much of a challenge. LOL, I just added up all the kills in Jochen's stats and they show that 84446 aircraft have been shot down in the past 3 weeks in the MA. Wonder how that stacks up to the RL conflict - I would guess at least 6 months of RL late war action! Aren't we a busy bunch.....

Projecting this FW190A5 kill rate of 1 week to the 3 week period of this tour to date, the A5 would have about 16,000 kills if it had been available from the begining of the tour!!! I realize this is an over-simplification, but never-the-less its very clear that the era of the FW190 has begun.

to all the AH boys and girls, after 3 weeks on-board I'm very impressed with the level of talent in this community, as well as the friendliness - even if we do blast each other down at these prodigious rates!
Fluf

Torquila · « **Reply #9 on:** June 27, 2000, 01:39:00 PM »

One of my former accounts takes credit for 3/4 of all those 202 kills

Vulcan · « **Reply #10 on:** June 27, 2000, 06:14:00 PM »

I just wanna know who the dude is racking up the kills in the C47.

Betcha theres a party in that plane.

-vlkn- in

Pongo · « **Reply #11 on:** June 27, 2000, 06:17:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Fluf:
I just added up all the kills in Jochen's stats and they show that 84446 aircraft have been shot down in the past 3 weeks in the MA. Wonder how that stacks up to the RL conflict - I would guess at least 6 months of RL late war action! Aren't we a busy bunch.....

1944. 26100 ac destroyed east and west front.

Citabria · « **Reply #12 on:** June 27, 2000, 06:18:00 PM »

subtract my 500 kills and 81 deaths from the P-38L K/D and its ratio turns out to be:

.78

the B-17 is more survivable than the P-38L

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Citabria

"You know, I have but one simple request and that is to have sharks with friggin laserbeams attached to their heads."

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Koed · « **Reply #13 on:** June 28, 2000, 07:56:00 AM »

Seems to me the Spit might not have the best K/D ratio but sure as hell has the largest overall number of kills.. why's that you think?

Koed · « **Reply #14 on:** June 28, 2000, 08:07:00 AM »

Hhhmm you should at least devide the total kills by the number of planes.

Then the designer competition looks likes this:

Yanks: 4665
Brits: 4367
Nips: 4350
Trax: 2987
Krauts: 2525
Macci: 1738
Rusky: 1200

If you would account for a standard devation based on the amount of planes in a set,then the Nips would take 2nd place with 2 devations over the Brits and the rest would stay the same

Flame away!

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