Author Topic: Time for ENY to go  (Read 7301 times)

Offline viking73

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Time for ENY to go
« on: July 01, 2018, 11:30:30 PM »
It was dumb to impliment in the beginning years ago and cost players. The M.A.W. ended up disbanding cause so many left. But especially now when there's hardly anyone playing it just turns people to leave even more and there goes any competition so more end up leaving. Especially when you have competing games. It's useless when you have <30 players to have ENY limitations.
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Re: Time for ENY to go
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2018, 11:33:32 PM »
A front based ENY have been discussed before, and I think that is fair.

To be the receiving end of a 1:3 odds, and enemies in uber planes is a few peoples idea of fun or fair play.
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Re: Time for ENY to go
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2018, 06:40:48 AM »
More like it's time to have an ENY Appreciation Day!   :aok

Every ENY thread is from people that want to eat their cake and still have it too.  What about all the people that quit before ENY - not only getting ganged, but ganged with the best planes?  Bet that number is far higher than people that can't steamroll with their precious pee51.
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Re: Time for ENY to go
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2018, 07:56:10 AM »
rather then restrict access to any specific plane.
assign perk values to all planes. When eny kicks in you can still fly the plane you like. But it costs you perk points. Connect the perks to ENY. Thus a FW D9 would cost more perks then say an A-5
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Re: Time for ENY to go
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2018, 09:45:55 AM »
If people leave the game because of ENY then it seems like switching to another country is seen as the worst crime ever although as this topic proves doing so makes the game more fun for others as well, because they can fly what they want too when numbers are more balanced. I heard a lot of crying about the ENY on knight country on Sunday little after the Fortress Europe event. When numbers started to drop it was something like 15 bishop vs 15 rook vs 30 knight.

One thing a squad could do is have some people switch sides to the third country and still attack the same country as before. You could use one of the open channels for communicating or some other option.

If someone is doing strategic bombing on specific targets then you could still switch to the third country and attack those same targets.
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Re: Time for ENY to go
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2018, 10:07:03 AM »
As we’ve stated before, ENY and the sideswitch timer work against each other.  People would switch for balance if they weren’t stuck on the other side for hours and suffer the ENY swing again later on their “new” country. 

ENY is not going anywhere, but as currently implemented does more harm than good, IMO.


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Re: Time for ENY to go
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2018, 11:19:50 AM »
As we’ve stated before, ENY and the sideswitch timer work against each other.  People would switch for balance if they weren’t stuck n the other side for hours and suffer the ENY swing again later on their “new” country. 

ENY is not going anywhere, but as currently implemented does more harm than good, IMO.

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Re: Time for ENY to go
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2018, 11:40:26 AM »
It was dumb to impliment in the beginning years ago and cost players. The M.A.W. ended up disbanding cause so many left. But especially now when there's hardly anyone playing it just turns people to leave even more and there goes any competition so more end up leaving. Especially when you have competing games. It's useless when you have <30 players to have ENY limitations.


The Bishops are now in game domination mode.....folks are hopping on their side to win maps and get perks for doing that. So I agree get rid of ENY and the bulk of the folks on the Nits and Rooks will just up and leave. What ever your smoking .......pass it along I would like some too.
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Re: Time for ENY to go
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2018, 12:37:58 PM »
I do not think folks left because of ENY. The funny thing is that folks here have opposite ideas on what ENY does.

People who really like competition are most likely already in a low ENY plane fighting most of yall already.
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Re: Time for ENY to go
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2018, 02:42:53 PM »
   Don't be an E.N.  whiner, learn to embrace Midwar and work in teams.   ENY is to level the playing field. I guess, but Perk point unlevel it.  The best players get the most points and have access to the Hi end weapons. and the poor Newbies that can barely scape enough together to get a Tempest now and then suffer.   adjusting the ENy and Charging Perkpoints for more planes may not be a bad idea, but making Perkpoints  more and less difficult to aquire  may not be either...….. Offer Them for sale.   Have a blast

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Re: Time for ENY to go
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2018, 04:33:59 PM »
I do not think folks left because of ENY. The funny thing is that folks here have opposite ideas on what ENY does.

People who really like competition are most likely already in a low ENY plane fighting most of yall already.
It was a couple years maybe before I even realized what ENY did as that was when my main ride was the 109F when its guns were actually worth a damn.
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Re: Time for ENY to go
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2018, 04:36:10 PM »
   Don't be an E.N.  whiner...

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Re: Time for ENY to go
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2018, 05:14:22 PM »
ENY, imo, is like not allowing RJO, BJO and KJO...
some like it and some don't
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Re: Time for ENY to go
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2018, 05:40:13 PM »
People who really like competition are most likely already in a low ENY plane fighting most of yall already.

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Re: Time for ENY to go
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2018, 05:42:02 PM »
rather then restrict access to any specific plane.
assign perk values to all planes. When eny kicks in you can still fly the plane you like. But it costs you perk points. Connect the perks to ENY. Thus a FW D9 would cost more perks then say an A-5

I think a variation of this has merit.  A plane effected by ENY suddenly costing a few perkies but you can still fly the plane.  I like this!

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