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Offline Mister Fork

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Re: Carrying capacity of the Earth
« Reply #45 on: July 23, 2018, 03:15:58 PM »
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Re: Carrying capacity of the Earth
« Reply #46 on: July 23, 2018, 03:35:36 PM »
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Re: Carrying capacity of the Earth
« Reply #47 on: July 23, 2018, 04:28:24 PM »
We are nowhere close to using up all capacity of the earth.

Humans are very robust and can live in more conditions and on more types of food than just about any other creature.  We live in a wider variety of places than cockroaches and rats.  We can survive off of food that would kill a chimp and that bacteria can't even eat.

Add to this that birthrate decreases as standard of living rises, and that standard of living is rising in the world, and I doubt we will get to an overpopulation crisis.
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Re: Carrying capacity of the Earth
« Reply #48 on: July 23, 2018, 04:29:11 PM »
I'm not a malthusian.
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Re: Carrying capacity of the Earth
« Reply #49 on: July 23, 2018, 04:32:27 PM »
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Re: Carrying capacity of the Earth
« Reply #50 on: July 23, 2018, 04:36:22 PM »
A lot of this so called issue would be corrected by thinning out the so called scientist. There are so many that the ones that are not busy are coming up with all kinds a granola for people to "think" they need to worry about.

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Re: Carrying capacity of the Earth
« Reply #51 on: July 23, 2018, 07:31:39 PM »
Technology and experimental hermetic closed bio-spheres should give us the potential for artic, desert and underwater cities. 

As Dr. Ian Malcom famously said, "Life finds a way."
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Re: Carrying capacity of the Earth
« Reply #52 on: July 23, 2018, 10:12:51 PM »
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Re: Carrying capacity of the Earth
« Reply #53 on: July 24, 2018, 12:11:37 AM »
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Re: Carrying capacity of the Earth
« Reply #54 on: July 24, 2018, 12:54:26 AM »
IMO, the biggest problem facing species extinction is modern medicine. We have come so far with meds, that we are basically killing our selves in the future by saving us in the now. Think about it...as far as I can see, there has always been Heart Disease, Diabetes, Cancers and STDs, among other melodies, only NOW we can keep them around and breeding. Sounds harsh I KNOW. Its the right thing to do...but every action has an equal and opposite reaction! Its no more survival of the fittest, its the survival of the best access to medical care.   On a SERIOUS NOTE...OUTLAW Plastic Surgery!!!!!! We as men gravitate to beautiful women...if we dont know how our partners really look...WE are DOOMING our posterity to lack luster genes! lol 
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Re: Carrying capacity of the Earth
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Re: Carrying capacity of the Earth
« Reply #56 on: July 24, 2018, 04:17:57 AM »
Quote from: 1stpar3 on July 24, 2018, 12:54:26 AM
IMO, the biggest problem facing species extinction is modern medicine. We have come so far with meds, that we are basically killing our selves in the future by saving us in the now. Think about it...as far as I can see, there has always been Heart Disease, Diabetes, Cancers and STDs, among other melodies, only NOW we can keep them around and breeding. Sounds harsh I KNOW. Its the right thing to do...but every action has an equal and opposite reaction! Its no more survival of the fittest, its the survival of the best access to medical care.   On a SERIOUS NOTE...OUTLAW Plastic Surgery!!!!!! We as men gravitate to beautiful women...if we dont know how our partners really look...WE are DOOMING our posterity to lack luster genes! lol
That is a misconception - you cannot cheat evolution. The fittest survive and carry on, but the criteria for evaluating "fittest" change. The only thing humans can do is to rock our evolution boat hard enough until it capsizes - but then the joke is on us. By that I mean that we extinct ourselves.

Quote from: Brooke on July 23, 2018, 04:28:24 PM
We are nowhere close to using up all capacity of the earth.

Humans are very robust and can live in more conditions and on more types of food than just about any other creature.  We live in a wider variety of places than cockroaches and rats.  We can survive off of food that would kill a chimp and that bacteria can't even eat.

Add to this that birthrate decreases as standard of living rises, and that standard of living is rising in the world, and I doubt we will get to an overpopulation crisis.
Yes, but would you LIKE to survive on food that will kill a chimp? Unless the food IS the chimp, my answer would be no. I want more than just survive.

The birth rates in the "west" (this includes Japan S. Korea etc) are going down, but that is not where the world population is. The majority of the world population are still reproducing at high enough rates and that is worse because thay are creating more people who are poor from birth, live with the poor, and will never be anything other than uneducated poor with lots of poor children of their own.

The world does not need to reach max capacity for a tragedy on mass scale - it is enough that regions of it reach capacity limits. The violence and suffering will then spill over to the more advanced civilizations that think that they are safe because we have not reached total global capacity.
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Re: Carrying capacity of the Earth
« Reply #57 on: July 24, 2018, 05:43:35 AM »
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Re: Carrying capacity of the Earth
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Re: Carrying capacity of the Earth
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