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Offline Vraciu

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Stats for TOUR 219 Corrupted?
« on: July 27, 2018, 05:11:48 PM »

I was looking at my MA scores for the past few tours, as I've been trying to focus on improving (Tour 219 was a big breakthrough for me in particular with my first KOTH). I looked up my stats and noticed that it was a few kills off.

Here were the numbers:

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Pilot score page: 107 kills, 22 deaths
AH stats page: 111 kills, 19 deaths

I know the stats page will show that some kills weren't counted towards rank, but then I noticed I had *FEWER* deaths in my total stats than I did for the tour score, which I have never seen before (the opposite I've seen, but not this).

I was curious and decided to pull up the top 10 pilots by fighter rank for tour 219 to see if their stats showed any similar differences.

#1. atlau
Pilot score page: 321 kills, 111 deaths
AH statistics page: 338 kills, 134 deaths

#2. Snailman
Pilot score page:  480 kills, 28 deaths
AH statistics page: 516 kills, 30 deaths (Wow, this is impressive.)

#3. FX1
Pilot score page:  346 kills, 66 deaths
AH statistics page: 341 kills, 53 deaths

#4. Rud3boi
Pilot score page: 590 kills, 82 deaths
AH statistics page: 604 kills, 101 deaths

#5. Darwin
Pilot score page: 330 kills, 89 deaths
AH statistics page: 341 kills, 102 deaths

#6. Rusyn
Pilot score page: 2029 kills, 643 deaths
AH statistics page: 1448 kills, 791 deaths (FEWER kills, MORE deaths??) 

#7. Monster0
Pilot score page: 394 kills, 114 deaths
AH statistics page: 430 kills, 125 deaths

#8. tech03
Pilot score page: 393 kills, 69 deaths
AH statistics page: 418 kills, 93 deaths

#9. Rapier
Pilot score page: 85 kills, 4 deaths
AH statistics page: 85 kills, 5 deaths

#10. Bruv119
Pilot score page: 80 kills, 5 deaths (Good grief, man.  Geeze.)
AH statistics page: 94 kills, 6 deaths

Most of them look alright, but then I saw #6. What the heck? The stats are showing LESS kills but MORE deaths, which shouldn't be possible. I'm going through the rest of the top 50 looking at their scores.

I've never seen this before. It's like actual kill data is missing. Did something get lost along the way?   I'm trying to remember if we had any discos that tour or whatever...

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Re: Stats for TOUR 219 Corrupted?
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2018, 05:37:22 PM »
Good thing you're on that.   :salute
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Re: Stats for TOUR 219 Corrupted?
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2018, 06:24:39 PM »
Ignore, I misunderstood the post.
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Re: Stats for TOUR 219 Corrupted?
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2018, 06:47:36 PM »
I know the stats page will show that some kills weren't counted towards rank, but then I noticed I had *FEWER* deaths in my total stats than I did for the tour score, which I have never seen before (the opposite I've seen, but not this).

Both pages count different things. The score page will count every death. The stats pages will only count registered kills, and so your death will also only show up there if someone got the kill credit for it. When you auger into a tree with no enemy being around (for example a badly misjudged takeoff in bombers), it doesn't add to the pilot (and plane) stats, only to the ones on the score page.
That's exactly what happened to me in tour 219 and that's why two deaths seem to miss on my player's stats page.
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Re: Stats for TOUR 219 Corrupted?
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2018, 07:03:08 PM »
I'm not sure that's what I am seeing here.  I know when that happens, but I have never seen kills just disappear.   Heck, how does someone lose 600 kills in a tour for example?   That really jumps out.  I'm still trying to wrap my head around what's going on. 

I know that the stats page and the scores page are different, but...
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Re: Stats for TOUR 219 Corrupted?
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2018, 07:12:02 PM »
the web page counts the scores as of the end of the day.


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Re: Stats for TOUR 219 Corrupted?
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2018, 11:53:21 PM »
the web page counts the scores as of the end of the day.


It's the rank calculation that's being done once per day. The statistical data (kills, deaths, time, sortie count and so on) on the player score page is updated the instant a sortie ends.


I'm not sure that's what I am seeing here. 

It's part of what you are seeing. There is very often a discrepancy in a player's deaths between those two pages because of what I explained above.
However, this absolutely does not explain the weird mismatch in rusyn's kill count. There is something really off there: 875 kills in the La-7 on the killstats sub page  http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/scores/killstat.php?selectTour=LWTour219&player=Rusyn&kt=2029 , but only 655 shown on his player stats page.
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Re: Stats for TOUR 219 Corrupted?
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2018, 01:36:40 AM »
Would proxies account for this? Like  when a collision or simultaneous deaths occur and you get THE KILL? He seemed to be in the thick of the action most times, so.... That would be better than even CYBROs proxie stats, but still wondering :uhoh
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Re: Stats for TOUR 219 Corrupted?
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2018, 05:15:40 AM »
Would proxies account for this?

No.
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Re: Stats for TOUR 219 Corrupted?
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2018, 06:06:02 AM »
However, this absolutely does not explain the weird mismatch in rusyn's kill count. There is something really off there: 875 kills in the La-7 on the killstats sub page  http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/scores/killstat.php?selectTour=LWTour219&player=Rusyn&kt=2029 , but only 655 shown on his player stats page.


Just took another look. On his player stats it shows 655 kills in the La-7, but if you click on his kills to get the detailed view, all the kills add up to the correct number of 875.
It similar for other planes for him, for example 109K-4 (37/52 kills) or B-239 (13/49 kills shown). His pilot stats main page is wrong all over.
Mine are correct for that tour (219), and so are Rusyn's for tour 218.
« Last Edit: July 28, 2018, 06:08:04 AM by Lusche »
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Re: Stats for TOUR 219 Corrupted?
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2018, 07:03:05 AM »
When the kills don't match check Ship or Field guns. They count as Kills but not toward Rank...
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Re: Stats for TOUR 219 Corrupted?
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2018, 07:10:43 AM »
Vraciu and kills = +1   hmmmm stats are fugged all he does is run very fast whilst doing his hair

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Re: Stats for TOUR 219 Corrupted?
« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2018, 08:06:22 AM »
Gee I noticed I do not have any kills for months.  :rofl
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Re: Stats for TOUR 219 Corrupted?
« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2018, 11:05:36 AM »
Vraciu and kills = +1   hmmmm stats are fugged all he does is run very fast whilst doing his hair

Lol.    :cheers:
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Re: Stats for TOUR 219 Corrupted?
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2018, 11:06:47 AM »

It's the rank calculation that's being done once per day. The statistical data (kills, deaths, time, sortie count and so on) on the player score page is updated the instant a sortie ends.


It's part of what you are seeing. There is very often a discrepancy in a player's deaths between those two pages because of what I explained above.
However, this absolutely does not explain the weird mismatch in rusyn's kill count. There is something really off there: 875 kills in the La-7 on the killstats sub page  http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/scores/killstat.php?selectTour=LWTour219&player=Rusyn&kt=2029 , but only 655 shown on his player stats page.



Hmmmm....   :headscratch:


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