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Offline Lazerr

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Re: End of Full Dar
« Reply #135 on: August 07, 2018, 11:47:47 PM »
Odd, the strat was supplied by the time you landed?  Maybe just in my opinion?

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Re: End of Full Dar
« Reply #136 on: August 07, 2018, 11:50:03 PM »
Odd, the strat was supplied by the time you landed?  Maybe just in my opinion?

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Re: End of Full Dar
« Reply #137 on: August 08, 2018, 08:34:13 AM »
Odd, the strat was supplied by the time you landed?  Maybe just in my opinion?

Yep... that is pretty standard for a long buff run as resupply works miracles, we've come to accept it.  M3s were already sitting outside of the factory waiting when we got there.  If they enjoyed themselves, I'm fine with that as we had a blast.  :aok

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Re: End of Full Dar
« Reply #138 on: August 08, 2018, 09:15:27 AM »
M3s were already sitting outside of the factory waiting when we got there.

It's pathetic, really. On so many levels.

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Re: End of Full Dar
« Reply #139 on: August 08, 2018, 09:33:20 AM »
It's pathetic, really. On so many levels.

Lol thank you.

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« Reply #140 on: August 08, 2018, 10:39:45 AM »
It's pathetic, really. On so many levels.

Seems to me that the counter-strategy worked.  Yay gaming.
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Re: End of Full Dar
« Reply #141 on: August 08, 2018, 10:59:06 AM »
Seems to me that the counter-strategy worked.  Yay gaming.

Oh, it absolutely works.  It is just kind of sad that the game is configured in such a way that when a strat is being attacked, Plan A is not to defend it but rather to resupply it because that is more effective.  Why prevent damage when you can repair it faster?  The most effective thing for people to do in defense is resupply, not defend the target.

I used to joke about the game having a Radar Operator position where you sit and stare at the radar screen and vector people to enemy contacts, and now by the sound of it that's about to become a reality.

I wonder if they're moving toward my idea to make this like minecraft where you need to mine the materials for your plane and build it before you can fly it.  Or maybe have "cook" and "mechanic" positions.  Click the pot to boil meat to feed the ground crew, or they die of starvation and you have no rearm or new planes from that base.  Right click on the nut to turn clockwise.

Hooray for menial repetitive tasks in gaming.

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Re: End of Full Dar
« Reply #142 on: August 08, 2018, 11:39:03 AM »
Oh, it absolutely works.  It is just kind of sad that the game is configured in such a way that when a strat is being attacked, Plan A is not to defend it but rather to resupply it because that is more effective.  Why prevent damage when you can repair it faster?  The most effective thing for people to do in defense is resupply, not defend the target.

I used to joke about the game having a Radar Operator position where you sit and stare at the radar screen and vector people to enemy contacts, and now by the sound of it that's about to become a reality.

I wonder if they're moving toward my idea to make this like minecraft where you need to mine the materials for your plane and build it before you can fly it.  Or maybe have "cook" and "mechanic" positions.  Click the pot to boil meat to feed the ground crew, or they die of starvation and you have no rearm or new planes from that base.  Right click on the nut to turn clockwise.

Hooray for menial repetitive tasks in gaming.

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Re: End of Full Dar
« Reply #143 on: August 08, 2018, 11:40:13 AM »
Seems to me that the counter-strategy worked.  Yay gaming.

Is it a counter strategy though? It certainly is not countering an enemy force with another force (combat).

It really is a negation strategy. It merely undid the damage done.


Thankfully, there were at least some players who took to the sky to actually counter Alpo's bomber mission with their own fighters. Kudos to them and kudos to Alpo for embarking on the mission.
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Re: End of Full Dar
« Reply #144 on: August 08, 2018, 11:51:10 AM »
Is it a counter strategy though? It certainly is not countering an enemy force with another force (combat).

It really is a negation strategy. It merely undid the damage done.


Thankfully, there were at least some players who took to the sky to actually counter Alpo's bomber mission with their own fighters. Kudos to them and kudos to Alpo for embarking on the mission.

It's gaming theory.  Because, like, this is a game.  The "resupply" row or column in the matrix is dominating the "bomb the stuffing out of this place" row or column.  Hinder the dominance of the "resupply" row or column with proper strategy, and you can eliminate its entire row or column from the matrix so that it does not dominate.
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Re: End of Full Dar
« Reply #145 on: August 08, 2018, 11:57:12 AM »
It's gaming theory.  Because, like, this is a game.  The "resupply" row or column in the matrix is dominating the "bomb the stuffing out of this place" row or column.  Hinder the dominance of the "resupply" row or column with proper strategy, and you can eliminate its entire row or column from the matrix so that it does not dominate.

Yup.. and once upon a time it wasnt an option.  Numbers and fights going strong all day long. 

Today.. fights.  Sometimes.. numbers, not so much. 

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« Reply #146 on: August 08, 2018, 12:27:00 PM »
Strats are laid out by the player terrain builder. There are no rules against placing GV spawns to strats. There is guidance on where to put strats, nothing fixed in concrete. If you guys don't like how the current round of MA terrains have been configured by their creators, build terrains that in your superior opinions are better.
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Re: End of Full Dar
« Reply #147 on: August 08, 2018, 12:35:38 PM »
Strats are laid out by the player terrain builder. There are no rules against placing GV spawns to strats. There is guidance on where to put strats, nothing fixed in concrete. If you guys don't like how the current round of MA terrains have been configured by their creators, build terrains that in your superior opinions are better.

Im not entirely happy with some of the things going on here in the good ole USA either.. should i prepare a run for president before i share my opinion?

Let yourself out of the basement for a few hours.. lol.

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« Reply #148 on: August 08, 2018, 12:46:48 PM »
Your opinions "assume" wanting Hitech to impose something on terrain builders instead of saying you wish Hitech would "impose what you want on terrain builders". Who elected you president of AH?
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Re: End of Full Dar
« Reply #149 on: August 08, 2018, 12:56:17 PM »
Your opinions "assume" wanting Hitech to impose something on terrain builders instead of saying you wish Hitech would "impose what you want on terrain builders". Who elected you president of AH?

Nevermind, not worth the time it takes to type the proper response.