PimpJoe, I flew the 262 in the MA, I'm familliar with it's flying characteristics too. It sure is a fast bird but it also has very deadlt guns. Only 1 or 2 pings are necessary to kill a plane. Also his speed is an asset in TOD as you can surprise an enemi plane. The 262 should be flown a bit differently than any other prop plane, but if flown right it's a nasty bugger. Maybe you don't come home with 3-4 kills, but is that really the goal of the TOD? Put 262s to escort duties or high cover. Even if they don't score a kill, no allied planes will be able to lfy striaght long enought to line up those arrados or any other perks.
Frankly, I never understood how someone could shot down a 262. in my oppinion, the pilot wasn't cautious enought (except shot down by bombers). The 262 is a game of patience. I only did 4 262 missions in the MA and I got 6 kills so far. 2 Lancs, 2 B17, 1 P51 (Hangtime), 1 P47 (UTE). Each of those flights I didn't attacked right away, I placed the eni plane "where I wanted to", then I attacked. 5 pings on a B17 from a slashing 3 o'clock attack and the wing was gone. Powerfull guns is what make the 262 "effective", and his speed makes him "untoucheable". I believe it's a well respected and even feared opponent on the allied side, I'm surprised they didn't impact the war more.
Wotan, re-read my post please. I never said no perk planes. I said less superbirds and more comon birds. I feel very exotic to find superbirds in a scenario, and I trully enjoy the spice, I just thought there were a bit too much. I know about your frame two mistake, but it didn't really matter to me, it was an honest mistake. Finding at the same place 6 TA152s, 6 D9s and 6 Me262 is "almost" the same as finding 18 Me262 or 18 TA152 to me, they still buzz around at high speed and you prey for them not to hunt you down till USA (off course they will caught up with you way before that)
. I understand for variety concern, but see it Allied side a bit. It's a bit tought if coming in your FW-F8 or 109-G6 all you face are Meteors, Tempests, Spit-20s and "B58s
". The TOD goal is historical scenarios but also to RTB alive thank to applying team dogfighting techniques.
Daddog, tyvm for understanding I wasn't criticizing or whining, but more trying to convey my feelings. I know you can't limit a number of plane, but I believe to the good faith of the squadrons and COs. I know for a fact that the 56th can auto-regulate itself. If our orders are
available 4 D30, 6 D25, unlimited D11 then we will rule ourself and find pilots for each. Rather than our orders who were
fly what you want. It would had put some chalenge on us and more planing too, as we would had to find a plan of action for our Jabo role.
"Strike group are 4 D30s heavy, objectives hangars", 6 D25's will be SEAD and small field targets, D11s will separate in 2 groups : an high alt cover 15 miles foward and a medium TARCAP. I found this better rather than all in D30s, 3 groups White/Red/Blue, orders: "destroy everything".
Same on the LW side. I'm Sure that the Assassins could had find the 2 lucky ones to fly the Me262 in the frame, then dispatch other pilots betweens A5s, Fs, A8s, D9s with all different frame goal. More variety, more excitment. I also think that being lucky enough to be the 2 only to fly the 262s, you want to live at any price rather than being a part of a flight of 6. There is also a proud factor between squads :"hehehe we got P47 D11s, and we had better results than your P51Ds ... hihihi". Rather than :"we all P51-Ds anyway, I'm just an another countless pony ".
Again, all this is my personal opinion and it is "what would float my boat", I fully understand that other people have various fun.
Daddog, those maps looks great. CM team, keep on the great work and thinking process. TODs are cherished event in the 56th (I think our show up number speack by themselves). The good think is that we are a P47 squad, now that the D11 is here, we can fly P47s at each ETO-TOD hehehe
[ 10-28-2001: Message edited by: SFRT - Frenchy ]
