Latest "radar" abomination

[Wiley]

What's your in-game name? Mine's osmium, ex-havermyr. Ask around if you don't currently play and don't know me: I never milk run. I always take risks to achieve an objective (and don't tell me flying at 30k to hit a distant strat isn't risky).
I want what I do to help my team, and with the latest dar experiment at best it will take longer to achieve the same risk/reward as before; at worst, I'll be on people's dar as a bomber several sectors before I get to target. I appreciate HT's attempts to bring new players into the game and will stick it out long enough to see what finally happens. But so far this one does not work for me.

I've run across you enough over the years, I'm a bit unclear what you think is going to change for you?  For you to show up under this system, you need to be within icon range of the enemy.  In the past, at that point they've called you out on country usually, and anyone who's interested will be headed for you.

What's the difference between that and a dot on the map?

Wiley.

[Mister Fork]

Map icon rate updates: BTW - it's an easy-peasy fix as there is a radar update rate setting where it sets the delay on how often the map updates.

In the AVA (Jaeger can correct me on this) our default update rate is 30 seconds.

[Shuffler]

What's your in-game name? Mine's osmium, ex-havermyr. Ask around if you don't currently play and don't know me: I never milk run. I always take risks to achieve an objective (and don't tell me flying at 30k to hit a distant strat isn't risky).
I want what I do to help my team, and with the latest dar experiment at best it will take longer to achieve the same risk/reward as before; at worst, I'll be on people's dar as a bomber several sectors before I get to target. I appreciate HT's attempts to bring new players into the game and will stick it out long enough to see what finally happens. But so far this one does not work for me.

War is hell.... even in a game.

[toddbobe]

I can live with these settings and would vote to keep them. I think it encourages teamwork...scouting.. and it has a basis in realism... we all remember those big maps back at the HQ and the cute girls moving those models about with the big sticks.

I do have a question. what is the floor of the dotdar? I still like to do NOE once in a while.

Todd

[toddbobe]

Icon range 18000 ft = 36 sqr miles of visibility.
Dot range 40000 ft = 180 sqr miles of visibility.

Huge gain by looking looking for dots vs looking on radar.

HiTech

What is the current floor of the dar? I love to be on the deck.

[Ciaphas]

What's your in-game name? Mine's osmium, ex-havermyr. Ask around if you don't currently play and don't know me: I never milk run. I always take risks to achieve an objective (and don't tell me flying at 30k to hit a distant strat isn't risky).
I want what I do to help my team, and with the latest dar experiment at best it will take longer to achieve the same risk/reward as before; at worst, I'll be on people's dar as a bomber several sectors before I get to target. I appreciate HT's attempts to bring new players into the game and will stick it out long enough to see what finally happens. But so far this one does not work for me.

welcome to war, fighter patrols were and are a thing.


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[Vraciu]

welcome to war, fighter patrols were and are a thing.


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Liar. 

[Mister Fork]

What is the current floor of the dar? I love to be on the deck.

65 feet

[TequilaChaser]

Emphasis by me. He calls it radar, and so should we.
(uh oh, the preview looks lengthy. sorry, but I'll post anyway. feel free to not read if its too much.)

Well thought out post, ccvi! 

I can not speak on the new update yet, haven't had time to get online....

But I do agree with alot of your post, especially the SA (situational awareness) stuff...


~S~

TC

[BuckShot]

-1 on the new radar format

There was nothing wrong with the old one.

-1 for AH3 in 8-2018

[HawkerMKII]

Dummy dar 2.0

[redcatcherb412]

Well, the "average player" doesn't generally do what I'm talking about, so you're correct on that.

So you're saying you see every single bandit that comes within icon range of your plane?  How would you know if you missed a guy?  You wouldn't have seen him.

Weekend afternoons if there's no good fight, I do it all the time if the strat raiders are active.

Wiley.

Of course in a 10 man bomber crew you would have 20 eyes scanning every direction at the same time with some of them using high power binocs.

[HawkerMKII]

I should have known this would be the reaction to ANY change.

IT IS NOT RADAR.  IT IS AN INFORMATION SYSTEM.

"Woodbine Red Leader, bandits, thirty plus.  Vector zero nine zero to intercept." - Radar Controller

"Woodbine Red Leader, I've got bandits!   Thirty FWs ten miles east of Bumville at twenty thousand." - Fighter Pilot

"Coastwatch One, bandits, thirty plus.   Heading 260, twenty thousand." - Ground Observer

Fighting is the problem.  Which is odd coming from ccvi since he will stand in there and swing the bat.

It is radar.

And as far as I remember we have had an "INFORMATION SYSTEM" for years, its called "COUNTRY CHANNEL" "RANGE CHANNEL" "SQUAD CHANNEL" and whatever other channels there are. Correct me if I am wrong but not all (if any) of the a/c flying in AH had any type of radar system.

Big problem today is no one wants to learn how to do anything, they all want the easy button, participation trophy, fast action, give me everything for free. This game has a very big learning curve and that's one thing that i really enjoy about it.

-1 for dummy dar

PS: if you can't find a fight, I am sure there are many eye doctors out there to get eyes checked.

[Vraciu]

+1000 on the new radar format.  I had a blast doing lots of different things on numerous missions.  Fur balled for awhile. CAP’d a base for awhile.  Attacked as a JABO for awhile.  Then we went and snuck four or five fields, the first one NOE. 

This format, with perhaps a few tweaks, may be the ideal compromise.   It generated action while still allowing the stategerists (sic) a chance to do their thing, too. 

Very exciting stuff.   Well done.

[Shuffler]

It is radar.

And as far as I remember we have had an "INFORMATION SYSTEM" for years, its called "COUNTRY CHANNEL" "RANGE CHANNEL" "SQUAD CHANNEL" and whatever other channels there are. Correct me if I am wrong but not all (if any) of the a/c flying in AH had any type of radar system.

Big problem today is no one wants to learn how to do anything, they all want the easy button, participation trophy, fast action, give me everything for free. This game has a very big learning curve and that's one thing that i really enjoy about it.

-1 for dummy dar

PS: if you can't find a fight, I am sure there are many eye doctors out there to get eyes checked.

Ground control would relay radar and any other info to the intercepting pilots in BOB. I am sure this happened in many places.