Antivirus software that's not a ripoff?

[ozrocker]

Avast, hands down.


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[TequilaChaser]

ESET on all computers (except 1 PC using "0" antivirus software)

even use ESET on my smartphone and other devices

antalytics report on most all the major AV / Enternet Security softwares came out recently (maybe was a few months ago)....

I've tried "Out Post", "Vipre" and a whole mess of others......

I'm sticking with my ESET ...... and use Malwarebytes  and it's little tool box of stuff like rkill, etc.... If I find a need,  depending on who's computer I might be fixing or upgrading.....


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[eagl]

Try whatever your internet provider offers for free.  Free is almost as far away from "ripoff" as you can get.  Mine offers f-secure.  Seems only partially annoying, no idea if it's working except that my computer still works.  Annoying part about it is that if you don't turn on 100% of its features like web browsing protection and sample submission, windows 10 will occasionally report that your computer is totally insecure and you need to take immediate action.  That's annoying.

[Vulcan]

Avast, hands down.

Thanks for my morning laugh

[John Galt]

My niece must of been trying to get my one laptop's immune system to fight viruses on it's own, she poured a whole lot of orange juice in it.  In her defense that laptop didn't get any viruses after that.

[Ramesis]

I use Malwarebytes AND windows defender... its all I can afford 

[Vulcan]

Yeahhhhhhhhhhh nahhhhh

NSS Labs AEP test, sorry couldn't find a higher quality pick. Horizontal scale is TCO (cost$), so ignore that. Vertical scale is effectiveness, that's the one to note. The bottom left one is malwarebytes, unfortunately. This is the test enterprise professionals look at. Most of the other stuff is "sponsor" influenced.



If you want to know more google the NSS Labs Advanced Endpoint Protectio SVM 2018

edit: found a better pic

[Bizman]

That's a nice chart. However, as with all test reports, some names are missing. Apart from half freebies like Avast! and AVG, I wonder where F-Secure is. Isn't their Chief Research Officer Mikko Hyppönen among the most valued experts in cyber security, after all? Or didn't they just want to pay for being ranked? -Edit: They either are too small, don't act on the enterprise security branch or aren't innovative enough.

[artik]

You should be very careful regarding "effectiveness" percentage since it is meaningless if you don't know what is the real false positive ratio. And the false positives are once that make our lives measurable.

[Vulcan]

That's a nice chart. However, as with all test reports, some names are missing. Apart from half freebies like Avast! and AVG, I wonder where F-Secure is. Isn't their Chief Research Officer Mikko Hyppönen among the most valued experts in cyber security, after all? Or didn't they just want to pay for being ranked? -Edit: They either are too small, don't act on the enterprise security branch or aren't innovative enough.

This is for NextGen AV/aka Advanced Endpoint Protection. Which those other products tend not have (yet). NSS Labs will invite vendors to participate, if the vendor declines then they will usually just buy the product themselves. Some vendors OEM these products so it is not necessary to review the OEM'd versions (for example both fortinet and sonicwall use Sentinel One).

Anyhoo there is now a cylance home offering found here: https://shop.cylance.com/us    . I just ordered it myself as my SonicWall license (Sentinel One) just expired. I used cylance a couple of years back and was highly impressed.

[Vulcan]

You should be very careful regarding "effectiveness" percentage since it is meaningless if you don't know what is the real false positive ratio. And the false positives are once that make our lives measurable.

If you google for the report they list all those details.

[Bizman]

This is for NextGen AV/aka Advanced Endpoint Protection. Which those other products tend not have (yet). NSS Labs will invite vendors to participate, if the vendor declines then they will usually just buy the product themselves. Some vendors OEM these products so it is not necessary to review the OEM'd versions (for example both fortinet and sonicwall use Sentinel One).

Well, can't tell about the freebies, but F-Secure has been global in the Endpoint protection market for ages. As far as I know, they aren't an OEM of any of those on the list.

For clarity, I don't sell any software whatsoever. I just install what my customers want and if asked tell them what I like or dislike. Knowing how big F-Secure has grown in Europe it feels odd that they're not on the chart.

[Vulcan]

Well, can't tell about the freebies, but F-Secure has been global in the Endpoint protection market for ages. As far as I know, they aren't an OEM of any of those on the list.

For clarity, I don't sell any software whatsoever. I just install what my customers want and if asked tell them what I like or dislike. Knowing how big F-Secure has grown in Europe it feels odd that they're not on the chart.

Read my lips... F-Secure do not do any Advanced Endpoint Protection products. They only do traditional AV, which in laymans terms is FUBAR. What you're asking is "Hey why isn't Fred Johnsons Horse Drawn Buggys tested in Supercar Magazine?".

AEP aka Next Gen AV does stuff like Cloud based sandbox/AI/Machine Learning as well as a huge raft of non-signature based analysis. So when a previously unseen piece of malware lands it will shut it down.

I put Cylance through some testing a few years back and had impressive results with it (including defeating two genuine malware attempts that the signature based stuff didn't have protection for for up to 6 weeks). I did check f-secures product page and they didn't not have any of this capability.

For clarity I don't sell software either. I work in government as an internal security consultant.

Also there is a 30 day trial, feel free to give it a spin. If I put money down for it is that not a decent recommendation?

[Bizman]

Oh, didn't notice the word "Advanced" ...

[Vulcan]

Oh, didn't notice the word "Advanced" ...

or the post I made explaining it?

This stuff does work and is different to your regular AV. Most of it is enterprise only (ie 200 seats minimum). So why did I post it? More recently the OEMing of products like Sentinel One have mean't that you can now get it down to about 5 seats minimum (which is a typical household install), and now Cylance offer their home product down to 1 seat (still uses the enterprise engine).

Most likely other vendors will follow in offering the ATP capabilities to home.