2-Sided vs 3-Sided Arena Design

[CptTrips]

We have an example of "How setting up this experiment in AVA or  SE arenas" would go. HT had a SEPARATE ARENA for testing of AH3 running at same time as MAIN AH2. We ALL know how that worked out, most NEVER EVEN attempted to try it out.

Yes, and every one of them knows it.  They are just desperate to avoid being trapped into admitting it.  Although it's a little fun to watch them thrash around like a drowning person.  Contorting themselves into pretzels to avoid getting pinned. 

[guncrasher]

ok so why put the 3 sided war in the sea arena.  put them side by side like they are now and let players decide.

semp

[1stpar3]

Seems the situation is like this Noone/or not many...would even give the 2side arena even a passing glance. ITS NEW/DIFFERENT and Melee is THE ARENA. I could see it working Side by side..only if you changed the ARENA names. Folk stick with what they know. maybe 2 Front MELEE and Standard Melee (or some difference in names just to get folk to think about it for a second). Most Melee players HAVE NO IDEA what AvA even is and those that do would see it as SAME OLD AvA with limited plane sets. His reasoning seems sound...but I would say it would be UNFAIR to either Arena set in SE or AvA...folk would just click on WHAT they are USED TO clicking on. Then when it seems different..well we know what that sounds like as well

[FLS]

If you prefer FLS' definition of "limiting imbalance" instead of achieving balance, I'm OK with that.  It's a distinction without much difference. If you sufficiently limit imbalance, you have balance.  As you tend away from imbalance, you tend towards balance.  FLS is just quibbling over phrasing because he is out of any other ideas.

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I understand you don't see the difference.

It's also clear that you have an agenda and aren't interested in discussion.

[The Fugitive]

You keep coming back for more.    You take a long time to say goodbye.

It looks like your the one who should say good bye. For the last few pages all you have done is argue and go off on these rants.


How long have you been here? Way back in the day when HTC first added EW, MW, and LW arenas the first 3 days or so EVERYONE was in the EW arena. Why? because it was at the top of the list. Once the players figured out there were more arenas and READ the titles they switched to the 3rd one done.... LW arena.

Even if HTC setup the arenas as you request..... and if you have been here more than a year or two you will KNOW that aint going to happen...... You may get everyone in the new MA with 2 sides, but I think they would switch back to the 3 sided arena just for the sake of getting their name back... 2 sided jacks and aces, 3 sided Knights, Bishops and Rooks. Human nature will win.

[CptTrips]

ok so why put the 3 sided war in the sea arena.  put them side by side like they are now and let players decide.

semp

Why?  Because I was needling the person who was suggesting shunting the 2-sided area off the the Special Events arena would be a fair test.    That was just a thinly veiled attempt to strangle it in its crib. 

You're right.  If you wanted to run them side, they should be listed (in order on the online arena list)

2-Sided Melee
3-Sided Melee
etc..

2-sided would be first in the list and the default selection.  I would consider that fair.

But what about the alternative of just running it on a couple of Tues like Caldera suggested?  "Two-Sided Tues!"

I honestly think a lot of people would enjoy something different.

[Arlo]

Just three words .....
















































Spanish Civil War.

[CptTrips]

It looks like your the one who should say good bye. For the last few pages all you have done is argue and go off on these rants.

No one if forcing you to click on this thread Fugitive.

[FLS]

Why?  Because I was needling the person who was suggesting shunting the 2-sided area off the the Special Events arena would be a fair test.   

Who do you imagine said "fair test"?  That was you... I said it would not be a fair test. 

Just stop the clown parade now. You have a preference with no good argument for it.

[Arlo]

We will never know how great a Spanish Civil War arena will be until we try it in place of the MA. I don't know why people don't just give it a try and prove me right. 

[CptTrips]

Who do you imagine said "fair test"?  That was you... I said it would not be a fair test. 

Then why did you suggest a test you knew was unfair?

Oh, you were for it, before you were against it. 

[CptTrips]

We will never know how great a Spanish Civil War arena will be until we try it in place of the MA. I don't know why people don't just give it a try and prove me right. 

Then go start you a thread and make your argument. 

[CptTrips]

Just stop the clown parade now.

Clowns like you keep marching by.   

[Arlo]

Then go start you a thread and make your argument. 

This one works. It would be a two sided arena. With margaritas. 

[CptTrips]

This one works. It would be a two sided arena. With margaritas. 

Deal.