Author Topic: How is a non functioning throttle at log in helping new players?  (Read 5929 times)

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Re: How is a non functioning throttle at log in helping new players?
« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2018, 11:12:12 AM »
Wiley, highly not. See, there's many controllers which be used as a throttle, the mouse wheel being one I used to use way back. The only way to make the game to understand your wish would be to eliminate all potentiometres in your system. That might be challenging, keyboard and throttle only for flying and fighting!

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Re: How is a non functioning throttle at log in helping new players?
« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2018, 12:49:16 PM »
Wiley, highly not. See, there's many controllers which be used as a throttle, the mouse wheel being one I used to use way back. The only way to make the game to understand your wish would be to eliminate all potentiometres in your system. That might be challenging, keyboard and throttle only for flying and fighting!

But there's a config file that says "This is the throttle control axis."  Why is there any autodetect even involved at that point?  Why does it require me to tell it to ignore the xbox controller that nothing is mapped to every time the program starts?

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Re: How is a non functioning throttle at log in helping new players?
« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2018, 01:33:30 PM »
Well, truth to be said, no idea.

However, having to move the throttle to activate it makes me feel like having executed an essential pre-flight checklist related ritual. And that makes me feel good. Immersion, no matter how worn out that word is.

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Re: How is a non functioning throttle at log in helping new players?
« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2018, 01:42:43 PM »
Its EXACTLY the same in DCS. Its really not THAT big an issue,SURELY :headscratch: All you got to do is slightly bump it..then game says" OK..we ready". Its just different..I know :mad: but DAYAM..come on man :bhead
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Re: How is a non functioning throttle at log in helping new players?
« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2018, 02:03:14 PM »
Its EXACTLY the same in DCS. Its really not THAT big an issue,SURELY :headscratch: All you got to do is slightly bump it..then game says" OK..we ready". Its just different..I know :mad: but DAYAM..come on man :bhead

I think it's more of the issue that "it wasn't this way before and now HiTech changed it and I don't like it".

I'm in that camp as well...annoying...but it is what it is...

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Re: How is a non functioning throttle at log in helping new players?
« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2018, 02:09:50 PM »
Yeah.  In a staged mission with an air start, I start falling out of the sky.   :rofl 
Even if I wiggle my throttle I still fall out of formation before I can compensate.

Maybe with air start, you assume full throttle until they tell you otherwise instead of assuming zero throttle.  That's probably the better assumption for air starts.   :lol

Agreed.
In fact with old method if you had throttle at zero during air start it would set the engine that way and nothing I could do about it. With new method I can make it be full until you move the throttle no matter where it is.


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Re: How is a non functioning throttle at log in helping new players?
« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2018, 02:18:52 PM »
Is there any chance that we could get that as an option that we elect to toggle or perhaps something for arena admins can set within the arena settings?


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Re: How is a non functioning throttle at log in helping new players?
« Reply #22 on: October 16, 2018, 03:47:48 PM »
Is there any chance that we could get that as an option that we elect to toggle or perhaps something for arena admins can set within the arena settings?


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I have no idea what you are asking for.

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Re: How is a non functioning throttle at log in helping new players?
« Reply #23 on: October 16, 2018, 03:53:28 PM »
Is there any chance that we could get that as an option that we elect to toggle or perhaps something for arena admins can set within the arena settings?


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You should already have the ability to go in to the controllers setup and/or key mapping and program a button/hat switch/or key on your keyboard to toggle it

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Re: How is a non functioning throttle at log in helping new players?
« Reply #24 on: October 16, 2018, 03:54:32 PM »
Cool thanks

I'm gonna program one of the 144 button/hatswitch with a "Shift +"



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Re: How is a non functioning throttle at log in helping new players?
« Reply #25 on: October 16, 2018, 03:57:15 PM »
Agreed.
In fact with old method if you had throttle at zero during air start it would set the engine that way and nothing I could do about it. With new method I can make it be full until you move the throttle no matter where it is.


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if the issue, as it appears, affects air starts primarily, why not leave the throttle the way it was and add an option for arena admins and those that build offline missions to set the throttle for air starts?






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Re: How is a non functioning throttle at log in helping new players?
« Reply #26 on: October 16, 2018, 04:23:31 PM »

if the issue, as it appears, affects air starts primarily, why not leave the throttle the way it was and add an option for arena admins and those that build offline missions to set the throttle for air starts?

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Because the air starts not being at full throttle is simply a bug, the way the throttle works was not changed because of air starts. It was changed to support multiple setups.

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Re: How is a non functioning throttle at log in helping new players?
« Reply #27 on: October 16, 2018, 04:27:08 PM »
Because the air starts not being at full throttle is simply a bug, the way the throttle works was not changed because of air starts. It was changed to support multiple setups.

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Gotcha, not sure I understand completely as the option to control the throttle (throttle, keyboard, mouse wheel etc) has always been there.


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Re: How is a non functioning throttle at log in helping new players?
« Reply #28 on: October 16, 2018, 04:43:42 PM »
Gotcha, not sure I understand completely as the option to control the throttle (throttle, keyboard, mouse wheel etc) has always been there.


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it was not there before. If you had an analog throttle configured, you could not use the key board throttle.

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Re: How is a non functioning throttle at log in helping new players?
« Reply #29 on: October 16, 2018, 05:02:44 PM »
Same thing happens in the windows game controller setup.    I doubt the game is causing this since it relies on windows.   

If windows does it, the game will as well.

How about you move your throttle and controls around like a real pilot does during preflight.