Author Topic: How is a non functioning throttle at log in helping new players?  (Read 5913 times)

Offline Ciaphas

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Re: How is a non functioning throttle at log in helping new players?
« Reply #30 on: October 16, 2018, 05:10:50 PM »
it was not there before. If you had an analog throttle configured, you could not use the key board throttle.

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Re: How is a non functioning throttle at log in helping new players?
« Reply #31 on: October 16, 2018, 05:12:51 PM »
A right-click&hold to the clip-board map to bring up and select from the pop-up menu moves the map. It feels strange. It didn't do this before the VR input changes.

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Re: How is a non functioning throttle at log in helping new players?
« Reply #32 on: October 16, 2018, 06:19:47 PM »
Same thing happens in the windows game controller setup.    I doubt the game is causing this since it relies on windows.   

If windows does it, the game will as well.

How about you move your throttle and controls around like a real pilot does during preflight.

Because we generally don't move throttles and thrust levers around during a preflight. 
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Re: How is a non functioning throttle at log in helping new players?
« Reply #33 on: October 16, 2018, 08:09:50 PM »
Because we generally don't move throttles and thrust levers around during a preflight. 
Amen to that Vraciu.

Heck, for years I would use the shift + to engage throttle even when I had a proper HOTAS.

I like the current implementation. It ensures that I don’t golf cart wheeling down aa runway or fall off a aircraft carrier while I am adjusting my VR headset, or getting myself seated properly when I first take off.

Leave it alone. It’s guuud. :aok
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Re: How is a non functioning throttle at log in helping new players?
« Reply #34 on: October 16, 2018, 09:18:02 PM »
Interesting...…………..………….

To date I've never experienced this happening to me...………….but I also use CH Control Manager created control mappings (read as Windows controller map settings) w\ my CH HOTAS that the game sees when executed (if you have the CH CMCC running prior to game startup so the CH CM created controller map of choice is executed\read within\into Windows) so I'll assume that the game's controller auto mapping feature sees this and auto sets itself to use the "Windows mapping" as read after making the initial game controller settings after initial game install to "match" the Windows controller map and as long as the Windows controller map doesn't change neither does the game controller map settings...…………………….

If this is so then here is a potential reason to use CH Control Manager software to map your HOTAS settings in Windows instead of within the game...……………..

Just a thought...…….……………..

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Re: How is a non functioning throttle at log in helping new players?
« Reply #35 on: October 17, 2018, 12:47:43 AM »
Interesting...…………..………….

To date I've never experienced this happening to me...………….but I also use CH Control Manager created control mappings (read as Windows controller map settings) w\ my CH HOTAS that the game sees when executed (if you have the CH CMCC running prior to game startup so the CH CM created controller map of choice is executed\read within\into Windows) so I'll assume that the game's controller auto mapping feature sees this and auto sets itself to use the "Windows mapping" as read after making the initial game controller settings after initial game install to "match" the Windows controller map and as long as the Windows controller map doesn't change neither does the game controller map settings...…………………….

If this is so then here is a potential reason to use CH Control Manager software to map your HOTAS settings in Windows instead of within the game...……………..

Just a thought...…….……………..

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Could be? I usually calibrate on first flight and it seemed to NOT have that issue...control for throttle mentioned. I only noticed it, after a log in and base was swarming..didnt have time to calibrate as usual. .Sure it IS an inconvenience..or I see how it could be...but its not that big a deal IMO. I know its gonna happen, so just move the throttle at launch. I will deal with this just fine...I LOVE the Air Spawns in MP and last few Scenarios!  :rock
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Re: How is a non functioning throttle at log in helping new players?
« Reply #36 on: October 17, 2018, 01:27:54 AM »
Because we generally don't move throttles and thrust levers around during a preflight.

I suppose in real life you don't start your engines with the throttle on "full power" either? If so, there would be no issue if everyone using a throttle pulled the lever back after every landing/crash/ditch/pullplug. As a bonus the potentiometre would get some action on the dusty areas to prevent spiking caused by accumulated dirt.

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Re: How is a non functioning throttle at log in helping new players?
« Reply #37 on: October 17, 2018, 01:39:11 AM »
You all know I did not say it was a big deal right?  But to a new player is could and probably is very confusing and that is why I titled the thread as such.

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Re: How is a non functioning throttle at log in helping new players?
« Reply #38 on: October 17, 2018, 03:19:09 AM »
I suppose in real life you don't start your engines with the throttle on "full power" either?

Depends. But throttle wide open,  mixture cut off, crank, mixture rich when it starts firing is pretty normal.

Moving some throttles needlessly is a stupid idea because whenever it's moved from closed to open some fuel is pumped.

It would be nice if it could always use the one input device if only a single input device is mapped. For the default config it wouldn't help because buttons would always be mapped by default.

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Re: How is a non functioning throttle at log in helping new players?
« Reply #39 on: October 17, 2018, 09:01:13 AM »
I suppose in real life you don't start your engines with the throttle on "full power" either? If so, there would be no issue if everyone using a throttle pulled the lever back after every landing/crash/ditch/pullplug. As a bonus the potentiometre would get some action on the dusty areas to prevent spiking caused by accumulated dirt.

Most of us don't get to use auto takeoff either.  Muh gaming concessions.
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Re: How is a non functioning throttle at log in helping new players?
« Reply #40 on: October 17, 2018, 09:02:14 AM »
Depends. But throttle wide open,  mixture cut off, crank, mixture rich when it starts firing is pretty normal.

Moving some throttles needlessly is a stupid idea because whenever it's moved from closed to open some fuel is pumped.

It would be nice if it could always use the one input device if only a single input device is mapped. For the default config it wouldn't help because buttons would always be mapped by default.

You won't see me doing that on any piston I fly. 
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Re: How is a non functioning throttle at log in helping new players?
« Reply #41 on: October 17, 2018, 09:03:15 AM »
You all know I did not say it was a big deal right?  But to a new player is could and probably is very confusing and that is why I titled the thread as such.

Hitech explained the reason so there's no argument from me, but I preferred the way it was before.   
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Re: How is a non functioning throttle at log in helping new players?
« Reply #42 on: October 17, 2018, 10:37:40 AM »
You won't see me doing that on any piston I fly.


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Re: How is a non functioning throttle at log in helping new players?
« Reply #43 on: October 17, 2018, 11:00:33 AM »
You won't see me doing that on any piston I fly.

You need to fly more Fuel Injected Lycomings.
This is a very normal procedure for hot start. Bugger is getting the mixture feed in and throttle back timing so the engine keeps running. Many times is a fancy lever dance with both hands.

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Re: How is a non functioning throttle at log in helping new players?
« Reply #44 on: October 17, 2018, 11:45:43 AM »
You need to fly more Fuel Injected Lycomings.
This is a very normal procedure for hot start. Bugger is getting the mixture feed in and throttle back timing so the engine keeps running. Many times is a fancy lever dance with both hands.

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