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Re: Its time to perk the Yak3 and La7
« Reply #120 on: November 16, 2018, 08:48:18 PM »

This confuses me.  If a small perk cost is not that big of a deal...then why impose a small perk cost...?  And shouldn't it be easier to fight a group of Yak3s if you're in a Yak3 yourself?

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My point was that a small perk cost would greatly reduce the usage which would be more beneficial to noobs whether they fly it or not. In other words, fighting too many of these planes at once is harder for noobs even if they get to fly that same plane. Less of these planes overall would be better for the game, even if a noob couldn't fly one. That's similar to how perk planes work now.
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Re: Its time to perk the Yak3 and La7
« Reply #121 on: November 16, 2018, 09:00:17 PM »
I don't think the Yak3 deserves to be perked. Just adjust the ENY.

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Re: Its time to perk the Yak3 and La7
« Reply #122 on: November 16, 2018, 09:09:41 PM »
I don't think the Yak3 deserves to be perked. Just adjust the ENY.
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Its time to perk the Yak3 and La7
« Reply #123 on: November 17, 2018, 11:15:16 AM »
My point was that a small perk cost would greatly reduce the usage which would be more beneficial to noobs whether they fly it or not. In other words, fighting too many of these planes at once is harder for noobs even if they get to fly that same plane. Less of these planes overall would be better for the game, even if a noob couldn't fly one. That's similar to how perk planes work now.


but if the Yak3 drivers are so deadly, they would have the perks to continue to fly this aircraft so what has been proposed with perk points would effectively be nulled.

sure it would keep new sticks out of them for a ver small time but the experienced Yak pilots would still have access to them.

as far as ENY is concerned, meh, we pay to play with the toys in this game. We don't pay to be limited in our choices.




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Re: Its time to perk the Yak3 and La7
« Reply #124 on: November 17, 2018, 12:48:14 PM »

but if the Yak3 drivers are so deadly, they would have the perks to continue to fly this aircraft so what has been proposed with perk points would effectively be nulled.

sure it would keep new sticks out of them for a ver small time but the experienced Yak pilots would still have access to them.

as far as ENY is concerned, meh, we pay to play with the toys in this game. We don't pay to be limited in our choices.


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I disagree. There is something about perked planes that greatly reduced it's usage. The F4U1C or F4U4 are great examples of that. These players would fly the Yak9U instead, which would balance out the fights better. The Yak3, spit16, and La7 usage would greatly be reduced. I believe that a small perk cost would take them from 3500 kills a tour, to about maybe 1500. I say they should be perked because even at 5 eny for an La7 or spit16, it still is a top killer. I have 12,000 perks and could fly temps and 262s for the next year. But I don't. A lot of pilots don't like to be known as the guy who only flies perk planes. Less of these planes overall in the environment would be better off for noobs. iMO the 190D should take the old perk cost of the Ta152. It's just too adundant in the game and makes fights slow and boring. IMO there should be less late war monsters in the game and more mid - late war regular planes. It would just make the fights better overall. 

IMO all late war super planes should be perked and people should have to work their way in the game to earn being able to fly one. In almost every other game a new player has to work to unlock better equipment as they progress in the game. This keeps them itching to play the game to be able to score a late war super plane. For some reason in AH it's "unfair for noobs" if they cannot fly a late war monster, but another longer term player whose earned it gets to. I don't see anyone else in other game complaining about that.
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Re: Its time to perk the Yak3 and La7
« Reply #125 on: November 17, 2018, 02:45:31 PM »

but if the Yak3 drivers are so deadly, they would have the perks to continue to fly this aircraft so what has been proposed with perk points would effectively be nulled.

sure it would keep new sticks out of them for a ver small time but the experienced Yak pilots would still have access to them.

as far as ENY is concerned, meh, we pay to play with the toys in this game. We don't pay to be limited in our choices.




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Re: Its time to perk the Yak3 and La7
« Reply #126 on: November 17, 2018, 02:52:02 PM »
Cool.  In that case, I demand to be allowed to fly a 262 every sortie from now on. 
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Re: Its time to perk the Yak3 and La7
« Reply #127 on: November 17, 2018, 04:30:29 PM »
Cool.  In that case, I demand to be allowed to fly a 262 every sortie from now on.


ENY vastly is different than Perk points.


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Re: Its time to perk the Yak3 and La7
« Reply #128 on: November 18, 2018, 04:45:50 AM »

ENY vastly is different than Perk points.


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ENY is worse from my perspective - it is a hard lock, while a perked ride I can always fly assuming I have the perks to deposit.
Note DEPOSIT not pay. All perked planes are free if you land them.

When I want to take a 262 I dont mind depositing and losing 1000 perks for it.
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Re: Its time to perk the Yak3 and La7
« Reply #129 on: November 18, 2018, 04:51:58 AM »

This confuses me.  If a small perk cost is not that big of a deal...then why impose a small perk cost...?  And shouldn't it be easier to fight a group of Yak3s if you're in a Yak3 yourself?

- oldman the bewildered
It is a combination of perk tag and ENY. A high perked ride with low ENY will be very difficult to sustain, because you potentially lose a lot of perks and earn little. This forces players to make some runs in high ENY planes in order to continue flying low ENY perked planes. Must be an awful experience to take an LA5 occasionally instead of the LA7, or Yak9U instead of Yak3.

... that, or they can fly their lowly perked rides like wusses.
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Re: Its time to perk the Yak3 and La7
« Reply #130 on: November 18, 2018, 09:52:44 AM »
Can we perk the eny?
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Re: Its time to perk the Yak3 and La7
« Reply #131 on: November 18, 2018, 02:50:22 PM »
ENY is worse from my perspective - it is a hard lock, while a perked ride I can always fly assuming I have the perks to deposit.
Note DEPOSIT not pay. All perked planes are free if you land them.

When I want to take a 262 I dont mind depositing and losing 1000 perks for it.

I agree, all rides should be available 24/7.

If that means adjusting, adding or removing perk costs then so be it.


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Re: Its time to perk the Yak3 and La7
« Reply #132 on: November 19, 2018, 06:23:47 AM »
I agree, all rides should be available 24/7.

If that means adjusting, adding or removing perk costs then so be it.


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If the perks required are removed from your perk cache at takeoff, I would agree.   Retaining perks is cause for even more timid play. 

Same goes for added perk point bonuses upon successful landings.
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Re: Its time to perk the Yak3 and La7
« Reply #133 on: November 19, 2018, 10:15:07 AM »
If the perks required are removed from your perk cache at takeoff, I would agree.   Retaining perks is cause for even more timid play. 

Same goes for added perk point bonuses upon successful landings.


Keep the perk ride "rental" system as it is, just adjust (add/remove) perk value requirements on rides.




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Re: Its time to perk the Yak3 and La7
« Reply #134 on: November 21, 2018, 12:10:00 PM »
I definitely think ENY for many planes needs to be looked at. The #s and stats don't lie. I know HTC doesn't their play their game very often, but it's easy to see how so many late war top performance planes are really hurting the fights rather than make them better. IMO, more midwar or harder late war fighters in the MA would make for much better fights and action. Too many BnZ planes like the P51 and 190D really make for slow gameplay. I just ask HTC to consider it.
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