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Offline Vraciu

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Re: A vario tone for g forces
« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2018, 06:00:26 PM »
What they did have was being able to feel the buffet/how the airplane was reacting to the airflow.  Very, very useful indication of what is going on.

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Re: A vario tone for g forces
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2018, 09:57:32 AM »
What they did have was being able to feel the buffet/how the airplane was reacting to the airflow.  Very, very useful indication of what is going on.

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Re: A vario tone for g forces
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2018, 03:06:33 PM »
you have a G-guage on the screen why do you need a tone?
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Re: A vario tone for g forces
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2018, 03:12:30 PM »
you have a G-guage on the screen why do you need a tone?

Because it's better to have something you don't need to look at while you're trying to keep an eye on bandits.

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Re: A vario tone for g forces
« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2018, 03:36:57 PM »
The other advantage is you can play tunes by stick stirring.   :devil

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Re: A vario tone for g forces
« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2018, 03:39:00 PM »
The other advantage is you can play tunes by stick stirring.   :devil

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Re: A vario tone for g forces
« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2018, 04:43:19 PM »
The other advantage is you can play tunes by stick stirring.   :devil

LOL first thing I'd try is the theremin part of the Star Trek theme.

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Re: A vario tone for g forces
« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2018, 07:37:55 PM »
LOL first thing I'd try is the theremin part of the Star Trek theme.

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Re: A vario tone for g forces
« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2018, 09:02:17 PM »
No. They didn't have HUDs, pitch ladders, or digits floating in space either.

No, but if it is sound related it could be physical strain like any fighter pilot would make in reality. Just another environment variable really.
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Re: A vario tone for g forces
« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2018, 09:40:51 PM »
you have a G-guage on the screen why do you need a tone?

Need is a strong word.

There is a big difference between an aural signal and a screen display. You could say "you have an airspeed indicator on the screen why do you do you need wind sound effects?" While we have a G-meter the important way that G forces are represented to us is the blackout tunnel, the red out and airframe creaking. All of these begin at higher G forces. I would like to see what it would be like to use an aural signal to give an instant feedback on what the G forces are. Forces that in real life would be quite apparent without reference to cockpit instruments. The vario is a real instrument that works extremely well so I think just copying it's tone for this purpose might work well. I imagine this feature would not be everybody's cup of tea just as stall preventer, tracers, reflections etc. etc are not so it is an opt in feature and not a default.
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Re: A vario tone for g forces
« Reply #25 on: December 19, 2018, 11:27:57 PM »
You can put the g meter HUD in the center of your view so you don't have to look at your instruments and you can use it in aircraft without accelerometers so we do have some options already. The meter is more precise than a tone for those occasions when you want to know your radial g.

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Re: A vario tone for g forces
« Reply #26 on: December 20, 2018, 01:54:33 PM »
There is a big difference between an aural signal and a screen display. I would like to see what it would be like to use an aural signal to give an instant feedback on what the G forces are.
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Re: A vario tone for g forces
« Reply #27 on: December 20, 2018, 09:09:27 PM »
I understand the wish I just don't see a vario tone being easily informative if you don't have perfect pitch.

One beep for each g up to 5g would be easier to keep track of.  :aok

However, you really already know if you can ease up in a turn or you have to turn harder, the bandit is telling you that by their position.

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Re: A vario tone for g forces
« Reply #28 on: December 21, 2018, 08:22:51 AM »
The game at one time had a creaking noise of wing stress as you pulled G’s. It would start out low and get louder as you pulled more G’s up to the point your wings would depart the plane. This has been gone for quite a while.
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Re: A vario tone for g forces
« Reply #29 on: December 21, 2018, 01:38:14 PM »
The game at one time had a creaking noise of wing stress as you pulled G’s. It would start out low and get louder as you pulled more G’s up to the point your wings would depart the plane. This has been gone for quite a while.

 :headscratch: My wings creak as I get close to G limit on the plane.

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