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Offline caldera

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something doesn't add up
« on: December 21, 2018, 12:39:12 PM »
These are the top 10 fighters in the current tour:




- One of these has a comparatively generous ENY rating, despite not only being #3 in kills , but tied for #1 in K/D.

- K/D can be skewed when only a few good pilots fly a somewhat obscure plane.  That is not the case here, with the Yak-3 being consistently very popular.

- Regarding popularity, all of the most popular planes are in the upper tier of competitiveness.  However, one always near the top of this list is rated as inferior in ENY.



Why is this plane at 18 ENY, when it's contemporaries are rated 5-12 ENY?   :headscratch: 
These ratings need periodic adjustments to have ratings more in line with their in-game performance.



ps: The F4U-1A is rated lower than it's performance indicates.  Should be under 10 ENY, along with the Yak-3.  Ditto for the 190D-9. 






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Re: something doesn't add up
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2018, 01:13:27 PM »
18 ENY is almost solely due to the lack of ammunition. Unlike the other aircraft shown here, the Yak-3 has short legs and 120 rounds of cannons.
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Re: something doesn't add up
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2018, 01:18:03 PM »
I agree with caldera.

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Re: something doesn't add up
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2018, 01:26:27 PM »
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Re: something doesn't add up
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2018, 01:59:06 PM »
18 ENY is almost solely due to the lack of ammunition. Unlike the other aircraft shown here, the Yak-3 has short legs and 120 rounds of cannons.

Idk.. i think its legs are long enough to do everything in the MA other than strat run escort.

Low ammo count, yes.  But if you plan and take smart shots, the guns hit hard and easily capable of 5+ kill runs.

Then the fact 1 in every 3 planes encountered is a yak3..


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Re: something doesn't add up
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2018, 02:21:55 PM »
These are the top 10 fighters in the current tour:




- One of these has a comparatively generous ENY rating, despite not only being #3 in kills , but tied for #1 in K/D.

- K/D can be skewed when only a few good pilots fly a somewhat obscure plane.  That is not the case here, with the Yak-3 being consistently very popular.

- Regarding popularity, all of the most popular planes are in the upper tier of competitiveness.  However, one always near the top of this list is rated as inferior in ENY.



Why is this plane at 18 ENY, when it's contemporaries are rated 5-12 ENY?   :headscratch: 
These ratings need periodic adjustments to have ratings more in line with their in-game performance.



ps: The F4U-1A is rated lower than it's performance indicates.  Should be under 10 ENY, along with the Yak-3.  Ditto for the 190D-9.

Yup..

Idk.. i think its legs are long enough to do everything in the MA other than strat run escort.

Low ammo count, yes.  But if you plan and take smart shots, the guns hit hard and easily capable of 5+ kill runs.

Then the fact 1 in every 3 planes encountered is a yak3..



Yup


Newb planes have been hurting the fights in AH. 20MM cannons do way more damage than 50 cals. 

All super late war planes should be perked. 190Ds hurt the fights. Yak3s that take 150 50 cals need to be like 5 eny. It's no different than the la7.

I mean if a Yak3 is 2 eny points away from a P51B. I think we have a problem. Try 1v1 with a p51B vs a Yak3.  :rofl

Is it really that hard to change a planes ENY? Too many goon planes in the sky has really slowed down the fights.
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Re: something doesn't add up
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2018, 02:51:40 PM »
I agree with the op. I would even go as far as revise the majority of the planes eny, some of them make little sence.

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Re: something doesn't add up
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2018, 07:34:37 PM »
I agree with the OP also....Yak3 should not be 18 eny.
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Re: something doesn't add up
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2018, 07:47:11 PM »
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Re: something doesn't add up
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2018, 08:38:03 PM »
Perk the Ship Gunner.

what's the point, the perks will just be returned, lol


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Re: something doesn't add up
« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2018, 09:03:55 PM »
I agree with the op. I would even go as far as revise the majority of the planes eny, some of them make little sence.

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Indeed.

Took a bigger sample of the three previous tours, to see if this month is an anomaly or the status quo:

Tours 224,225 and 226: Top Ten Fighters  (plane/ENY/kills/deaths/K/D)  best numbers are bolded

1. P-51D / 5 / 15172 / 11995 / 1.26

2. Spit XVI / 5 / 11323 / 9677 / 1.16

3. Yak-3 / 18 / 10163 / 6857 / 1.48

4. 190D-9 / 12 / 8150 / 5664 / 1.43

5. N1K2J / 5 / 7750 / 6239 / 1.24

6. Ki-84 / 20 / 7750 / 6239 / 1.27

7. La-7 / 5 / 5941 / 4709 / 1.26

8. F4U-1A / 12 / 5641 / 3803 / 1.48

9. P-47M / 10 / 5356 / 3813 / 1.40

10. F6F-5 / 12 / 5090 / 5688 / 0.89



Quite a few things that don't jibe here:

The plane tied for the best K/D has an ENY of 18.  Should be a 7, and that's being generous.  Compare it's results to the dreaded Spit XVI. 
The other plane tied for the best has an unrealistic 12 ENY.  Should be an 8. 
The P-47M should probably be an 8.
The Dora should be a 7.
The Ki-84 at 20 ENY?  Please.  Should be a 9.


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Re: something doesn't add up
« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2018, 10:44:03 PM »
While the Yak-3 IS annoying af, I think it's ENY is OK. Main reason is that it carries zero ordnance unlike the others on that list. It has almost no capability to kill a GV except soft vehicles and you aint gettin many with that short clip.

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Re: something doesn't add up
« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2018, 10:44:24 PM »
what's the point, the perks will just be returned, lol


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Re: something doesn't add up
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2018, 12:38:50 AM »
I did all the math...and the answer is 42.  So it does add up...FYI  :bolt:
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Re: something doesn't add up
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2018, 08:48:56 AM »
18 ENY is almost solely due to the lack of ammunition. Unlike the other aircraft shown here, the Yak-3 has short legs and 120 rounds of cannons.
I dropped 8 or 9 kills with that amount of ammo because it's other attributes make up for it's lack of ammo.
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