What's the deal with stick scaling?

[FLOOB]

Back in the day it was all the rage. I never really fully understood what the appeal was. Does anybody still use it? Is it worth fussing over?

[Bizman]

With the more accurate sticks using Hall effect sensors and the likes scaling has become less important for a smooth stick experience.

Back then the player base also may have been more interested in tinkering with all kind of settings both inside the game and the peripherals. Do you remember people salvaging Fresnel lenses from overhead projectors to be used in front of their monitors? 

[TequilaChaser]

Some people are more aggressive (read as "ham-fisted") when moving their controllers rather than being smooth and easy (gentle).... Those that are aggressive, use stick scaling to overcome the yanking/jerkiness of control input..

I, personally, never used it because I prefer 1:1 ratio (all sliders 100% across the top), and find that I can get more control input with less movement of the controllers, which also lends to having my controllers to last me 20+/- years of use, while others have the exact same controllers wear out / break in 3 years or less...

YMMV

Hope this helps

TC

[Skuzzy]

I use it to help with the off-center movements to make them smoother and gentler.  At 1:1 I struggle when I am trying to line up a shot.

[TequilaChaser]

I use it to help with the off-center movements to make them smoother and gentler.  At 1:1 I struggle when I am trying to line up a shot.

I can actually relate to your reply regarding why you use it, for I had similar experiences way back when I first started Full Realism back in AirWarrior in the early 90's... I didn't just up and instantly experience an immediate improvement.. I'm thinking that it took about 93 through 95 for me to completely forgo using any scaling...

That was why I posted "for me personally"... Everyone is different and what works (or doesn't), will or won't for another...

[popeye]

I use scaling along with manual trims for more precise control.   Not that it helps....   

[FLS]

Scaling makes the near center movement of the stick more precise. As you approach the limit of travel the stick increases the percentage of response and becomes less precise. This makes it important to understand trim, so that you have the precise movement where you need it.

I use a stick extension which makes the stick more precise without scaling so the response is the same from none to full. The trade off is that I have the move the stick further but that also adds realism.

[Ack-Ack]

With the more accurate sticks using Hall effect sensors and the likes scaling has become less important for a smooth stick experience.

It hasn't become less important, with 32 bit controllers coming on the market, it helps to be able to scale the stick input to help control the sensativity of the stick.

[Bizman]

I stand corrected. Partially... As has been said, some like the 1:1 scaling. A precise stick and a steady hand is a good combination for those. A longer stick could help those with a less steady hand as the movement is larger. Scaling does the same in the center area, virtually making the stick longer.

[atlau]

It hasn't become less important, with 32 bit controllers coming on the market, it helps to be able to scale the stick input to help control the sensativity of the stick.

Which controllers are you referring to?

[Ack-Ack]

 

Which controllers are you referring to?

VKB controllers are an example of 32 bit controllers.

[atlau]

Any others?

[BuckShot]

I've tried playing around with scaling and no matter what I do I can't get rid of nose bounce. It's why I miss most of the time.

[Drano]

Any others?

I believe the Virpil sticks are also 32 bit. Both are quite pricey.


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