How do you dogfight with hatview?

[Greebo]

I suffer really badly from motion sickness and snap views are the only way I can play a game like this. Besides I never had any trouble tracking someone using an eight way hat with up and down view modifier buttons.

Any game which uses smooth scrolling views or a padlock view, or any sort of FPS or driving game just makes me nauseous in a few minutes. Even driving GVs in AH is something I can't do for more than 15 minutes or so. I've never tried VR but I am sure that would be even worse. I think using snap views prevents my brain from assuming what it sees on the screen is reality and then me getting that conflict between what my eyes and what my inner ear are experiencing.

[Copprhed]

The worst thing is trying to play non-VR after using VR for a year or more.

This is why I'm not playing any more. I have a cataract that has obscured my vision in my left eye, and another in the right that appears to be growing rather quickly; I see stars around lights now, with the right eye. I have tried flying on screen, and it's just a miserable experience after playing for so long with Oculus Rift. HiTech really outdid himself with the VR.
One day I may return, but in the meantime, I'm learning to play my 2010 American Strat, while waiting on my 120TH Anniversary Gibson GS.

[The Fugitive]

Only if you like low quality visuals.

Ya thats what I thought too, until I tried it. Now it just amazes me every time I put it on. You dont notice the lower resolution because your so entranced with how everything looks/works. You just want to reach out and touch things its so real looking. A bit to get use to but so far, I giggle every time I start messing around with VR!

[OldNitro]

I use both.. The hat is set up as normal, works like a manual override..
But if I had to play without TIR5, I probably wouldn't at all..

For me, it has become a necessary integral part of the game..
As necessary as a basic Stick, not really worthwhile without it..

Spoiled I guess!

[fd ski]

Only if you like low quality visuals.

you registered here in 2002, well before HD, 4K and trackir. Heck, if you date back to AW and WB in your flight sim addiction, i'm sure you quite accept low quality visuals. Suspension of disbelief

Yes, graphics are somewhat poorer in VR, but twisting your head around as you get that con to overshoot, there ain't nothing like it.
This is coming from a guy who couldn't get used to TrackIR and played using hatswitch up till 2016.

[Shuffler]

Keypad views are the only way to go.

I mean, that and dial phones.

Two cans and a string are awesome.... no packet loss.

[Shuffler]

Ya thats what I thought too, until I tried it. Now it just amazes me every time I put it on. You dont notice the lower resolution because your so entranced with how everything looks/works. You just want to reach out and touch things its so real looking. A bit to get use to but so far, I giggle every time I start messing around with VR!

I honestly have not tried it  because of the reviews about quality.

[Traveler]

Seriously, how do you do it? How did I do it 14 years ago? 

Even after two weeks of practicing I can not figure it out any more. First I thought "I'm just rusty, give it time", but it seems as if 15k hours using TrackIr has destroyed any ability to think differently anymore. I don't make any progress.
Even when attacking non maneuvering bombers I can hardly keeping track of our relative positions, my old frontal quarter overhead attacks are right off the table - I have to resort to high 6 attacks if I actually want to land any hits. And my first Komet sortie resulted in an instant collision 

Was using a TrackIr really such an advantage (took me onlöy a few days to move from hat views to TIR back in the day), or is it just my age that prevents me rewiring? 


/rant

If you have trackIR, why would you not use it?  TrackIR works exceptionally well in AH even better in DCS World.   

[Traveler]

Seriously, how do you do it? How did I do it 14 years ago? 

Even after two weeks of practicing I can not figure it out any more. First I thought "I'm just rusty, give it time", but it seems as if 15k hours using TrackIr has destroyed any ability to think differently anymore. I don't make any progress.
Even when attacking non maneuvering bombers I can hardly keeping track of our relative positions, my old frontal quarter overhead attacks are right off the table - I have to resort to high 6 attacks if I actually want to land any hits. And my first Komet sortie resulted in an instant collision 

Was using a TrackIr really such an advantage (took me onlöy a few days to move from hat views to TIR back in the day), or is it just my age that prevents me rewiring? 


/rant

[JOACH1M]

Keypad views are the only way to go.

I mean, that and dial phones.

Key pad views for me too.


Track IR annoys me in AH.

[asterix]

How!?! By saving money of course. 

[ACE]

Seriously, how do you do it? How did I do it 14 years ago? 

Even after two weeks of practicing I can not figure it out any more. First I thought "I'm just rusty, give it time", but it seems as if 15k hours using TrackIr has destroyed any ability to think differently anymore. I don't make any progress.
Even when attacking non maneuvering bombers I can hardly keeping track of our relative positions, my old frontal quarter overhead attacks are right off the table - I have to resort to high 6 attacks if I actually want to land any hits. And my first Komet sortie resulted in an instant collision 

Was using a TrackIr really such an advantage (took me onlöy a few days to move from hat views to TIR back in the day), or is it just my age that prevents me rewiring? 


/rant

Idk first thing I ever used was a joystick with hat control. I never lose sight of a plane really. Just used to it I reckon. I hate the thought of Track IR

[fd ski]

I honestly have not tried it  because of the reviews about quality.

try it, you might find a whole different game. I went from flying once a month or two, to everyday
Rent it for a week or two and see how it pans out.

[DaddyAce]

Ya thats what I thought too, until I tried it. Now it just amazes me every time I put it on. You dont notice the lower resolution because your so entranced with how everything looks/works. You just want to reach out and touch things its so real looking. A bit to get use to but so far, I giggle every time I start messing around with VR!

Pretty much my experience too; found my self feeling like I was leaning up against the inside of the canopy trying to get a better view at times.....t'would be hard to go back to flying without it now.....

[caldera]

Never had a problem with using a hat switch, except when it gets worn out and twitches like Max Headroom.