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Offline John Galt

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Invisible Poverty
« on: March 22, 2019, 03:55:57 PM »
    My wife, family , and friends of mine own several properties together.  We try to make all units affordable and upkept. So on an inspection this morning , prompted by a utility provider that they cut off service to one of my u its. Heading the law I immediately went there to see what the issue was. I find after doing an inspection a level of poverty that is unacceptable in this country. Several basic needs in my unit,  I will say it was my unit that was in bad shape.  This family has been behind since movibg in.  They have never paid on time, but made honest attempts to pay, they never called for repairs out of fear for me hitting them up for rent. Just remember all poverty is not seen.   As a man with children I had tears over this, and will say I am guilty of not seeing the poverty that was in front of my eyes.
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Re: Invisible Poverty
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2019, 04:09:39 PM »
    My wife, family , and friends of mine own several properties together.  We try to make all units affordable and upkept. So on an inspection this morning , prompted by a utility provider that they cut off service to one of my u its. Heading the law I immediately went there to see what the issue was. I find after doing an inspection a level of poverty that is unacceptable in this country. Several basic needs in my unit,  I will say it was my unit that was in bad shape.  This family has been behind since movibg in.  They have never paid on time, but made honest attempts to pay, they never called for repairs out of fear for me hitting them up for rent. Just remember all poverty is not seen.   As a man with children I had tears over this, and will say I am guilty of not seeing the poverty that was in front of my eyes.

There are a few who are really just down on their luck. All they need is a little help and they will get back on their feet soon enough.

It is amazing how many just fail to plan. Either that or they play around till the folks who have supported them are gone and then have no one to care for them anymore.

The saddest I have seen is when a couple in need keep having children they surely cannot support.

It is hard to see those things but many times, if you know the whole story, it is easy to see why many folks are in that situation. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.
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Re: Invisible Poverty
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2019, 05:36:54 PM »
I dont give a damn about anyone but my family and people i know :old:

Stick this collective guilt, i never made anyone poor :old

Let Bono and Maddona do their help the polar bear crap.

UBS Warburg dont give a rats arse so why should i!

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Re: Invisible Poverty
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2019, 06:00:31 PM »
You guys are turning something political that doesn't need to be. Poverty is a problem in the first world and a growing one at that. And to blame poverty on those who are in it is a lame duck scapegoat. Have you looked at tuition and living cost. A child born into poverty has to work considerlu harder to get an education they can't afford , and if they can't afford even the smallest of fees. They are stuck in poverty. While kids with privelaged families , as we have see can blatantly buy their under achieving students into the best programs.
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Re: Invisible Poverty
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2019, 06:03:38 PM »
I dont give a damn about anyone but my family and people i know :old:

Stick this collective guilt, i never made anyone poor :old

Let Bono and Maddona do their help the polar bear crap.

UBS Warburg dont give a rats arse so why should i!


You may not of done it personally but you have let it go on. Poverty is not somethig a kid born into it can say " I am going to college and getting a degree so I won't be poor tomorrow. "
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Re: Invisible Poverty
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2019, 06:04:36 PM »
Zach1234 not to mention you are a perpetually offensive person and that is what you live on. All of us know that.
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Re: Invisible Poverty
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2019, 06:29:31 PM »
I am just sick you guys think you know what is going on. While you hide poverty. Poverty is a problem and going unchecked will hurt everyone. If you guys are so sure it is a savings problem.  I Wil hire yout at min wage for 40 plus hours a week. Then in the end let me know how much you have to save.   That is a real garuntee.  I will pay you min wage for 6 months.  And you save. I will even give you 3500 savings to start.
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Re: Invisible Poverty
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2019, 06:30:16 PM »
How dare you!

Your the slum landlord with your property investment portfolio.

You damn hippocrite!

Your property is not fit to live in and you call me out!

You should hang your head in shame admitting you rent out slums to poor people

Dont link me to your greed
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Re: Invisible Poverty
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2019, 06:44:50 PM »
So before this gets out of hand:

It's a wise saying about never judge a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes (or 1.609344 kilometers, for Euro types).  Being there, and seeing it, can be an eye-opener.  There's no need to make a political argument out of a grim observation.

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Re: Invisible Poverty
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2019, 06:45:21 PM »
You guys are turning something political that doesn't need to be. Poverty is a problem in the first world and a growing one at that. And to blame poverty on those who are in it is a lame duck scapegoat. Have you looked at tuition and living cost. A child born into poverty has to work considerlu harder to get an education they can't afford , and if they can't afford even the smallest of fees. They are stuck in poverty. While kids with privelaged families , as we have see can blatantly buy their under achieving students into the best programs.
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Nothing political in what I said.

Public schools are free. Many folks born in poverty make it out. You just will not do it laying on the couch watching TV. As for college.... you do not need college to be successful.

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Re: Invisible Poverty
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2019, 06:46:08 PM »
I am just sick you guys think you know what is going on. While you hide poverty. Poverty is a problem and going unchecked will hurt everyone. If you guys are so sure it is a savings problem.  I Wil hire yout at min wage for 40 plus hours a week. Then in the end let me know how much you have to save.   That is a real garuntee.  I will pay you min wage for 6 months.  And you save. I will even give you 3500 savings to start.

But living with in the bounds of a paycheck is the key to not being in the house. As a landlord, as I have been, if a tenant can't afford the property, you don't rent to them. If they start missing rent payments, you need to find out why and if need be recommend a mutual break in contract and assist them with finding cheaper accommodations.

One main factor to the "downward spiraling" poverty is the irresponsible selling and/or renting of goods to people that they know can't afford it and when the individual defaults the seller crushes the consumer.

wants are wants and needs are needs.

Needs: shelter, food and water

everything else is a want and cam be worked around.




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Re: Invisible Poverty
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2019, 06:48:06 PM »
How dare you!

Your the slum landlord with your property investment portfolio.

You damn hippocrite!

Your property is not fit to live in and you call me out!

You should hang your head in shame admitting you rent out slums to poor people

Dont link me to your greed
this whole thing has made me sick to my stomach. I have.never been. On to push rent and have always been up on repairs wether or not I have been paid.

I will strike this and any unit I see unfit. standard out of fees or not. I want no one no matter what in any of my buildings living that way.   
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Re: Invisible Poverty
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2019, 06:49:12 PM »
So before this gets out of hand:

It's a wise saying about never judge a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes (or 1.609344 kilometers, for Euro types).  Being there, and seeing it, can be an eye-opener.  There's no need to make a political argument out of a grim observation.

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Re: Invisible Poverty
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2019, 06:50:46 PM »
Nothing political in what I said.

Public schools are free. Many folks born in poverty make it out. You just will not do it laying on the couch watching TV. As for college.... you do not need college to be successful.

.when was the last time you went for a lucractive job?
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Re: Invisible Poverty
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2019, 08:56:56 PM »
Theirs not to make reply,. Theirs not to reason why,. Theirs but to do and die.

I have always been lucky to have a good job.  at age 20 i was supporting my mother and 4 brothers and sisters.  this with a highschool education.  you can say i was lucky.  I somehow manged to provide for 3 kids and my wife, buy a house, my youngest one was 5 years old the first time he drank water, before it was milk or juice, to this day he wont drink water alone.  i was making a good living then i got hurt about a year ago.  now I am out of a job, getting worker's comp, waiting to get a surgery i need to get back to work. not even gonna get into my wife's illness.  I am lucky i managed to put money into 401k's and pensions in two different companies.  that's what I am living on.  worker's comp dont pay crap, i make in 1 week what i used to make in 10 hours of work.  when savings runs out, if i dont have that surgery, I am out on the streets.

I am caught in the middle ground between not being in poverty yet and having enough money for now to pay for my bills and yet with no insurance and with my wife's illness it wont be long.  I am not the only one.  I know lots of people who got caught in the same situation as me.  not that we are lazy, we just get caught in situations.

it is what it is.  I volunteer at a soup kitchen near where i live.  I see able bodies, willing to work but because they are on the streets, it's harder to turn your life around.  that's a cold fact.  very few will risk giving you a job because they think you wont show up because you dont have a permanent address.

I live in a working class apartment, clean, no drugs, no gangs, no break ins, it's safe.  two families where 1 husband and on the other the wife lost their jobs moved in together.  the manager just turned a blind eye to it. 10 people living in a 2 bedroom apartment.  when i read that the unemployment rate is only 2% or whatever it is now, it's a lie.  they dont count those who cant find a job and arent on unemployment or cant get welfare.  most are people that want to work but cant find a job because even minimum wage jobs have 10 or 15 people show up for 1 position.  that's a fact.

invisible poverty is a reality.  most people dont want handouts, they want to work.  we arent living in a world of al bundy anymore where a lowly paid shoe salesman can afford to pay a mortgage and have a crappy old dodge in the garage.  those times are long gone.

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