Exploit.

[Arlo]

killing the engine in flight and restarting it is childish gaming crap that should be removed by making it impossible to air start an engine

That would be more damaging than beneficial when the first player accidentally hits his 'e' key and is horked and if he's lucky he knows where he forum is and decides to start a complaint thread instead of cancelling his account then and there we all get a chance to enjoy his frustration. Then it happens to another.

[The Fugitive]

Sure you can always find someone who is going to complain, but once the "exploit" is explained to them and the reason it is designed that way, the intelligent players will accept it and move on.

So yes, lets continue to "poo-poo" every idea that may make the game better as we watch players continue to leave. 

[Arlo]

Sure you can always find someone who is going to complain, but once the "exploit" is explained to them and the reason it is designed that way, the intelligent players will accept it and move on.

So yes, lets continue to "poo-poo" every idea that may make the game better as we watch players continue to leave. 

We don't need 'bath water out with the baby' or 'cure worse than the disease' ... 'fixes.' Not every idea has merit.  (And who the Hades is leaving because of this?) 

[FLS]

killing the engine in flight and restarting it is childish gaming crap that should be removed by making it impossible to air start an engine

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Eagler

Would suck if the rotary engines couldn't blip.

There is no real advantage to turning the engines off except defeating the gamey exploit of turning sounds down. So what's the problem that needs fixing?

[Arlo]

Would suck if the rotary engines couldn't blip.

There is no real advantage to turning the engines off except defeating the gamey exploit of turning sounds down. So what's the problem that needs fixing?

I need to turn sounds down because I can't turn voices up enough. Guess my hearing damage from my service days can't accommodate the frequencies needed to hear some of my squadies' (or other player's) verbal communication over the engine drone. Still gotta 'swivel-head' to avoid getting bounced (30 seconds more life).

[FLS]

I need to turn sounds down because I can't turn voices up enough. ...

Missing context.

[Arlo]

Missing context.

You mean 'can't hear voices over the engine drone' and 'still need a swivel-head to avoid the bounce' wasn't enough context regarding the suggestion that eliminating the ability to adjust sounds in the game would fix the problem of adjusting sounds in game to supposedly game the game?

[FLS]

You mean 'can't hear voices over the engine drone' and 'still need a swivel-head to avoid the bounce' wasn't enough context regarding the suggestion that eliminating the ability to adjust sounds in the game would fix the problem of adjusting sounds in game to supposedly game the game?

Nobody is discussing "eliminating the ability to adjust sounds in the game". The context is the sound adjustment exploit that is defeated by turning off the engine.

[Arlo]

There is no real advantage to turning the engines off except defeating the gamey exploit of turning sounds down. So what's the problem that needs fixing?

Nobody is discussing "eliminating the ability to adjust sounds in the game". The context is the sound adjustment exploit that is defeated by turning off the engine.

The "sound adjustment exploit that is defeated by turning off the engine" is pure silliness from both aspects. So what 'context' am I supposedly missing? 

[FLS]

We're done.

[Arlo]

Mmmmok. I thought the question was simple enough. 

[Shuffler]

killing the engine in flight and restarting it is childish gaming crap that should be removed by making it impossible to air start an engine

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Eagler

I have accidentally killed my engines while just flying. Lucky for me I could restart them.

[Mongoose]

killing the engine in flight and restarting it is childish gaming crap that should be removed by making it impossible to air start an engine

And what is your justification for this?  I remind you that this game is built on a flight simulator.  The goal is to simulate the flight characteristics of a real airplane.  There is nothing to stop a real pilot in a real airplane from turning his engine off and then restarting it.  So what is your justification for creating this artificial limitation in the game.

[Mongoose]

That would be more damaging than beneficial when the first player accidentally hits his 'e' key and is horked

I have done that before.  I got in a hurry and was trying to type a message, but missed the / key.  Partway through typing the message, my engine shut off and I got a message that I don't have a bomb bay to open.  I was able to turn the engine back on and continue. 

Then there was a another time that I was really low on fuel.  I turned my engine off to save the last of my fuel, and glided for twenty miles.  Then I restarted my engine and landed.

[Arlo]

I have accidentally killed my engines while just flying. Lucky for me I could restart them.

^This.