Author Topic: Enough is enough  (Read 5748 times)

Offline turt21

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Re: Enough is enough
« Reply #75 on: June 23, 2019, 05:26:48 PM »
But you're not the arbiter of the 'evolution of the game code.'

Your suggestion:

It's almost as if you've entirely forgotten that capture and winning the map is a foundation in this game.

Gee I thought it was to have fun. No wonder the numbers are drying up

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Re: Enough is enough
« Reply #76 on: June 23, 2019, 05:48:00 PM »
But you're not the arbiter of the 'evolution of the game code.'

Your suggestion:

It's almost as if you've entirely forgotten that capture and winning the map is a foundation in this game.

Gee I thought it was to have fun. No wonder the numbers are drying up

There are several types of fun ... but if you didn't know the MA is really kinda built about the capture of bases and the winning of the map ... with fun elements throughout such ... I'm not sure how you missed it.  :D

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Re: Enough is enough
« Reply #77 on: June 23, 2019, 07:47:38 PM »
It's 56 vs 22 in the MA right now.  Knit Rook front is empty.  Never thought I'd say this, but this game sucks.  I am done. 
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Re: Enough is enough
« Reply #78 on: June 23, 2019, 08:03:00 PM »
It's 56 vs 22 in the MA right now.  Knit Rook front is empty.  Never thought I'd say this, but this game sucks.  I am done.

Are you inferring that one of the three sides had zero players? Are you inferring that that the lowest numbered side (of 3) had 22 players and the two other sides had 56 players between them? Are you saying that the only front you'll play on is the Knights versus Rook front? That you couldn't or wouldn't switch sides to find a front that was more active? You felt the need to post your disappointment but I don't understand it, fully. It actually seems, right now, that you're easily done in. But *ShruG* without knowing all the details of it there are no options to suggest other than your bailing.

Sayonara and good luck wherever you land.  :salute :cheers:


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Re: Enough is enough
« Reply #79 on: June 23, 2019, 08:06:50 PM »
You felt the need to post your disappointment but I don't understand it, fully. It actually seems, right now, that you're easily done in.

Think what you want.  I'm out of here.
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Re: Enough is enough
« Reply #80 on: June 23, 2019, 08:09:16 PM »
You know what he means....

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Re: Enough is enough
« Reply #81 on: June 23, 2019, 08:15:50 PM »
You know what he means....

I know he's making a stink here as he says goodbye. I think I almost understand why he thinks the game sucks. But I also think he's his own worst enemy. Is that what you 'know?'

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Re: Enough is enough
« Reply #82 on: June 23, 2019, 09:30:15 PM »
Are you inferring that one of the three sides had zero players? Are you inferring that that the lowest numbered side (of 3) had 22 players and the two other sides had 56 players between them? Are you saying that the only front you'll play on is the Knights versus Rook front? That you couldn't or wouldn't switch sides to find a front that was more active? You felt the need to post your disappointment but I don't understand it, fully. It actually seems, right now, that you're easily done in. But *ShruG* without knowing all the details of it there are no options to suggest other than your bailing.

Sayonara and good luck wherever you land.  :salute :cheers:

Must you talk down and belittle everyones post?

For many switching sides isnt an option. They are "loyal" to their teammates. Who are you try and force players to switch side?

A player comes in and lists a complaint, a reason to stop paying his $15 a month as many others seem to be doing, and your solution is to belittle him and try to pick apart his complaint and make it irrelevant. Im glad you dont run the company.

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Re: Enough is enough
« Reply #83 on: June 23, 2019, 09:48:01 PM »
Must you talk down and belittle everyones post?

For many switching sides isnt an option. They are "loyal" to their teammates. Who are you try and force players to switch side?

A player comes in and lists a complaint, a reason to stop paying his $15 a month as many others seem to be doing, and your solution is to belittle him and try to pick apart his complaint and make it irrelevant. Im glad you dont run the company.

And I'm glad you don't.

*ShuG*

Jinx came here and threw a tiny fit and rage quit. I actually tried to prod him for more details but then he might have suffered a suggestion or two and he wasn't having any. I did include a polite goodbye (since I anticipated that the details I was curious about wouldn't be forthcoming).

Personally, I think he just wanted to quit and thought he found the perfect excuse to do so when none was really necessary. But that's just my own opinion. Will he reconsider and un-quit? That'd be nice. And if he doesn't decide to, then that's his obvious prerogative, as well.

Players quit and players join. There's always been turn-over. If Jynx's public bye-bye and stomp off included something worthy of consideration then I'm sure HT noticed and is furiously coding, as we speak, to make sure another player never ever logs on and has a bad evening caused by population shift and having to consider the unthinkable option of switching sides (or not).

As far as 'talking down' or 'belittling' goes, no, I don't make a point of it. Nor do I make a point of sympathizing when there seems no real reason to. Jynx could have just as easily wore his big boy pants and just said goodbye or nothing at all.

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Re: Enough is enough
« Reply #84 on: June 24, 2019, 02:24:55 AM »
It's 56 vs 22 in the MA right now.  Knit Rook front is empty.  Never thought I'd say this, but this game sucks.  I am done.

Yes, this happens, especially to bish, and not by chance. For a long long time bish had the most players by far (when ENY didn't yet enforce some numbers balance). Even today without significant numbers, bish are those willing to sacrifice most for the war. They were and still are the worst enemy.
Of the current players, many still remember the old bish dominance, and the frequency of bish map wins over other countries is probably obvious even to newer players (they don't exist, anyway).

With regards to field captures, bish are both knights and rooks favorite target.

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Re: Enough is enough
« Reply #85 on: June 24, 2019, 07:47:06 AM »
Yes, this happens, especially to bish, and not by chance. For a long long time bish had the most players by far (when ENY didn't yet enforce some numbers balance). Even today without significant numbers, bish are those willing to sacrifice most for the war. They were and still are the worst enemy.
Of the current players, many still remember the old bish dominance, and the frequency of bish map wins over other countries is probably obvious even to newer players (they don't exist, anyway).

With regards to field captures, bish are both knights and rooks favorite target.

What a crippling mindset.

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Re: Enough is enough
« Reply #86 on: June 24, 2019, 07:57:42 AM »
And I'm glad you don't.

*ShuG*

Jinx came here and threw a tiny fit and rage quit. I actually tried to prod him for more details but then he might have suffered a suggestion or two and he wasn't having any. I did include a polite goodbye (since I anticipated that the details I was curious about wouldn't be forthcoming).

Personally, I think he just wanted to quit and thought he found the perfect excuse to do so when none was really necessary. But that's just my own opinion. Will he reconsider and un-quit? That'd be nice. And if he doesn't decide to, then that's his obvious prerogative, as well.

Players quit and players join. There's always been turn-over. If Jynx's public bye-bye and stomp off included something worthy of consideration then I'm sure HT noticed and is furiously coding, as we speak, to make sure another player never ever logs on and has a bad evening caused by population shift and having to consider the unthinkable option of switching sides (or not).

As far as 'talking down' or 'belittling' goes, no, I don't make a point of it. Nor do I make a point of sympathizing when there seems no real reason to. Jynx could have just as easily wore his big boy pants and just said goodbye or nothing at all.

You do nag on every post in here. It’s like it’s your 200 to spite what any one says. There are still guys that pay there 15$ to just fight. That aspect is for the most gone from this game. So as long as the ground gunners are safe and the 30k buffs that have pin point bombing percussion and the invisible wirbs that can blast you out of the sky are happy, I guess that’s all that matters. I guess now you gonna look up my stats and say something like oh you gv or you been in a ground gun x many times. Pick it apart any way you want and keep believing there’s nothing wrong with the game. Soon there will be a bunch of folks at 25k and a few hovering over an a k some where wondering why there’s no action.

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Re: Enough is enough
« Reply #87 on: June 24, 2019, 10:22:34 AM »
You do nag on every post in here.
No, I don't. But I'm predicting your entire post will be an example of such.
It’s like it’s your 200 to spite what any one says.
Nope. Only to point out the flaws in the flawed whines.
There are still guys that pay there 15$ to just fight. That aspect is for the most gone from this game.
No, it's not. Just because you can't find your own or figure out how to bait someone to fight you (flight tactics, not 200) that doesn't mean they've stopped existing, altogether.
So as long as the ground gunners are safe and the 30k buffs that have pin point bombing percussion and the invisible wirbs that can blast you out of the sky are happy, I guess that’s all that matters.
Nope. Not in the least. It all matters. But it's not all as exaggerated as you perceive.
I guess now you gonna look up my stats and say something like oh you gv or you been in a ground gun x many times.
Nah. I don't do that. You either have me confused with somebody else or you're working in a strawman, here.
Pick it apart any way you want and keep believing there’s nothing wrong with the game.
It's not the game. It's some of the players in the game. Despite what some seem to believe, HT's ability to program the players doesn't really exist. Take, for instance, ENY and players that are bound and determined not to switch sides in spite of. No, really, in spite.
Soon there will be a bunch of folks at 25k and a few hovering over an a k some where wondering why there’s no action.
Is that your prediction or your hope?

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Re: Enough is enough
« Reply #88 on: June 24, 2019, 10:48:10 AM »
seriously flippz you fly at 20k right now. what do you mean by soon?


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Re: Enough is enough
« Reply #89 on: June 24, 2019, 11:29:57 AM »
No, I don't. But I'm predicting your entire post will be an example of such.Nope. Only to point out the flaws in the flawed whines.No, it's not. Just because you can't find your own or figure out how to bait someone to fight you (flight tactics, not 200) that doesn't mean they've stopped existing, altogether.Nope. Not in the least. It all matters. But it's not all as exaggerated as you perceive.Nah. I don't do that. You either have me confused with somebody else or you're working in a strawman, here.It's not the game. It's some of the players in the game. Despite what some seem to believe, HT's ability to program the players doesn't really exist. Take, for instance, ENY and players that are bound and determined not to switch sides in spite of. No, really, in spite.Is that your prediction or your hope?

I believe your thoughts on ENY maybe wrong. ENY handy caps the side with the bigger numbers as compared the the side with the lowest numbers. It limits they team ....... shocking I know, using coding to limit what players can do in the arena.....what the number  superiority  so they dont have both numbers AND the best equipment.

Switching sides due to ENY is the answer to the complaint "but I want to fly my P51!". HTC is giving players the choice to either play with numbers in crap equipment,  or play with good equipment but worst odds.

So ENY isn't something to cause players to switch sides, it is a leveling system to try and keep the fighting even. As I said before switching sides for some players is not an option. Squad affiliation, team affiliation, friends you like to fly with not against are all good reasons NOT to switch.Stop using it as a solution to  "find fights" , because for many it is not.