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Offline ONTOS

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Early War
« on: June 17, 2019, 12:50:04 PM »
Just on my mind. I would like to see the Early War introduced again, because I would like to fly the early planes with out being attacked by the late war mighty birds. I know there are pilots that fly early planes with success, but lie FSO, the right planes for the right time. Just a thought.

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Re: Early War
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2019, 01:01:24 PM »
I realize I am an Army of One here but your comment highlights why I loved the Rolling Plane Set.
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Re: Early War
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2019, 01:02:08 PM »
We simply do not have the population for multiple arenas. The closest thing you will get is flying for Bishops until about 6 PM ET and some FSO's of course. Speaking thus, join us this Friday in Emil's and I-16's!
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Re: Early War
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2019, 01:04:27 PM »
Just on my mind. I would like to see the Early War introduced again, because I would like to fly the early planes with out being attacked by the late war mighty birds. I know there are pilots that fly early planes with success, but lie FSO, the right planes for the right time. Just a thought.

Didn't they get rid of it because it was always empty?  Or was it because they felt it was covered by AvA on occasion?

I'm all for as much variety as possible, but do you think anyone would go in there to fly with you?








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Re: Early War
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2019, 01:07:04 PM »
I wish AvA was a true AvA arena.  Its been used too much as a scenario or event arena.  Air Warrior AvA was a blast.
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Re: Early War
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2019, 01:18:31 PM »
Didn't they get rid of it because it was always empty?

EW was already essentially dead before the plug was pulled. Just look at the last full EW tour:



About three(!) air to air kills per day. 1/1000th of the kills in LW in the same month; and AH had ~50% more players back then.


ADDENDUM:
Examining these kills in detail, I found that the majority of them was one single player letting another player kill him over and over. So it's been even more dead than it already appeared.

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Re: Early War
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2019, 01:20:05 PM »
I wish AvA was a true AvA arena.  Its been used too much as a scenario or event arena.  Air Warrior AvA was a blast.

If people are not going there regularly then they will make use of it. Just Mondays and Thursdays now. Are you in there any of the other 5 days?
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Re: Early War
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2019, 01:21:10 PM »
One way you could handle this is with an AI augmented arena like WWI: Western Front.

You could at least provide an AI playground for someone who wants to toy around for an hour in a genre that can't draw critical mass on it's own. 
If other people join in when they see you in there, all the better, otherwise you can at least target practice on the AI.


Just thinking out-loud...

What if you had a "Early-Mid War" AI augmented arena.
It could be a 512 map divided in to 4 zones. 
Euro-Early
Euro-Mid
Pacific-Early
Pacific-Mid

In each of the 4 war zones would also be divided into 3 AI skill zones
Cadet
Veteran
Elite

Would there be any interest in something like that?

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Re: Early War
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2019, 01:24:11 PM »
If people are not going there regularly then they will make use of it. Just Mondays and Thursdays now. Are you in there any of the other 5 days?
Yeah,

When I first started as an admin in the Combat Theatre (now the AvA), I would log in and find easily anywhere from 30-60 players duking it out in historical setups.  Brady was the first admin of the arena and he's since moved on over a decade ago.

The AvA would see daily numbers of 10-20 and now we're down to 10-20 on Mondays and Thursdays. For me, the low icon range, and the historical setups are a strong interest. I love the MA for other reasons too.
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Re: Early War
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2019, 06:05:35 PM »


The Rolling Plane Sets was one the best things about WB.

From the "Book Of Dweeb"


Days of RPS

And the plea went out across the rolling landscape that the dweebs doth
live in. Oh Lord sayeth the dweebs, Although thou art good to us in our
dweebishness, we need variety so the foul runstangs and butcherbirds
will be not the only avengers in the air. And the lord IEN saw that
this was indeed a worthy request from the dweebs below. Forty days (and
two weeks) did the gods toil and then the heavens parted (yet again).
Know this oh you dweebs below, I have come forth to give thee what thy
asketh for. It shall be called a "Rolling Planeset" that thy can no
longer use the mighty runstang the entire war. In order to aspire to
the lofty height thou wantest, you must first master the earlier
models. Then did the lord IEN givest the dweebs the sacred list into
which was inscribed the sacred periods of Testing called a "Tour". And
lo, the list prescribed whatest the dweebs could use and when. And the
list was long and detailed. No longer could the mighty prevail the
entire war. Many steeds must a dweeb use and many various airplane
parts would be strewn across the land before the dweebs ever set eyes
on Dora the Beguiler. First thy had to survive in the dangerous, yet
fragile Zeke. And perhaps yet court the dangers of the Iron Dog for
mighty is his bite, yet not the most agile is he. For a time, the dweeb
must first master the Gnat, yes the fast and mighty turner. But only
those who do not stress thy wings and test thy structual limits will
survive this test. And then thou movest to the newcomer from the East,
the Yak whose engine dost revolve in the wrong direction and many will
a dweeb fall that forgets the torqueth goes the other way too! And
perhaps the dweeb will test the Lawndart, yea the proud Kittyhawk that
falleth at a mighty pace. And perhaps if they wantest, they may partake
of the trial of "no six view", the Peril of the Dweeb-cat whose
all-around performance is among the mighty, yet treacherous is it.

And no longer should thy mighty fortress thunder endlessly across the
sky, for though must explore the mysteries of the micro-bombers of
Antioch. The tiny Val and Kate must you learn and explore the mysteries
of the plummeting Stuka and Dauntless. For with these craft can you no
longer smite thine enemies from lofty heights. And if you persevere the
test of the speedy yet fragile trials of the Mitchell and the G4M2
"Matchbox", then will you be worthy to ride the Fort, for IEN in their
infinite wisdom, has doth given you two versions. Then, if worthy of
the gift you be, you may find comfort in the steed with the "Cannon of
the Artillery" that can carry the "Holy Hand Grenades of Antioch".
And if thy survives the first tests, then may he proceed to higher
levels of dweebish-ness. To the lofty spires of the Runstang and the
Hog, fly with St. Frank and court Dora the beguiler. Or if thy prefer,
fly secure in the confines of the mighty Fortress protected by the
Sword of "Otto". And if thy waits until the last day, yes verily shall
they feast eyes on the coming of the Stormbird. Fast as lightning is he
and armed with mighty Hammers of Airframe Pounding, yet small is his
ammo loadout and wide is his turns, yes, leagues worth to circle takes
he. For although thou art by far the fastest in the air above, and can
boomest and zoomest even the mighty runstang, thou hast a very high
landing speed and thou must use thy largest fields through great peril.
And if thy survive these, the period of testing, then thy shall begin
anew with another tour of duty.

And the dweebs recognized this as very gift they had requested and were
happy for it was good....

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Re: Early War
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2019, 07:14:01 PM »
I wish AvA was a true AvA arena.  Its been used too much as a scenario or event arena.  Air Warrior AvA was a blast.

+1

Put Melee settings into the AvA. 
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Re: Early War
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2019, 08:37:49 PM »
From the "Book Of Dweeb"
.......

First thy had to survive in the dangerous, yet
fragile Zeke. And perhaps yet court the dangers of the Iron Dog for
mighty is his bite, yet not the most agile is he.


Classic.  Thanks for re-posting that.

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Re: Early War
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2019, 02:09:58 PM »
If people are not going there regularly then they will make use of it. Just Mondays and Thursdays now. Are you in there any of the other 5 days?

They dont restore the server to what you'd expect AvA to be, it retains whatever they were doing on Monday or Thursday.
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Re: Early War
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2019, 03:27:28 PM »
They dont restore the server to what you'd expect AvA to be, it retains whatever they were doing on Monday or Thursday.

That is a mistake. I will put a bug in their ear about it. It should always be reset to regular AVA after the short events.

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Update.... I let the powers that be know about your concern haggerty. Hopefully they will get the arena reset proper in the future.  :aok
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Re: Early War
« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2019, 04:06:29 PM »
Like I said, just a thought.