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Offline CptTrips

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THAT Symbol
« on: June 17, 2019, 04:51:16 PM »

Totally agree with Hitech's decision to not use it even though the EU has decided to change it's position on the matter in recent years.
So that is not under discussion.

What I was wondering is what replacements you guys would feel comfortable with.

What are your thoughts on something like:

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Re: THAT Symbol
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2019, 05:45:53 PM »
Just leave the area blank if you decide to not have a swastika.

All other images placed on the vertical stab only serve to highlight that something else was there, what it really was, and what it means.

I'm all for a modeler applying a swastika to a model he builds for himself or one to be placed in an area when where can correct context of the marking can be given.

The 109 restorations you show are a bit of a gray area for me since they are kept at a museum where visitors can be given that context. But since the planes do indeed fly, omitting the swastikas is also appropriate. If they were only for static display, I'd be in favor of the swastika being applied.

When it comes to games, I fully support a developer's decision to not allow swastikas. Without context, people will assume the worst the moment they see a swastika because that symbol is still used to this day as a symbol of hate and oppression. Adequate context is difficult to provide in a single player game and near impossible in a multiplayer one, especially for casual observers.

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Re: THAT Symbol
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2019, 05:46:45 PM »
Totally agree with Hitech's decision to not use it even though the EU has decided to change it's position on the matter in recent years.

EU had nothing to do with it, there was no "EU ban".



What are your thoughts on something like:

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Looks a bit silly to me, like an edgy 7th grader trying to skirt the line.
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Re: THAT Symbol
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2019, 05:48:06 PM »

When it comes to games, I fully support a developer's decision to not allow swastikas. Without context, people will assume the worst the moment they see a swastika because that symbol is still used to this day as a symbol of hate and oppression. Adequate context is difficult to provide in a single player game and near impossible in a multiplayer one, especially for casual observers.

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Re: THAT Symbol
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2019, 06:00:54 PM »
There are certain examples of German aircraft where the swastika was painted over.





Good options for those who wish to have their historical accuracy without the baggage.
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Re: THAT Symbol
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2019, 06:03:14 PM »
I think anything trying to resemble it looks tacky.
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Re: THAT Symbol
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2019, 06:38:40 PM »
I get what you are saying about aircraft skins.

I'm think more about what would be acceptable on a base flag.  lol WWI had so much less baggage.  :confused:

How about something like?

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Re: THAT Symbol
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2019, 07:25:54 PM »
I believe that style of flag was only used by the German navy.

I would go for something like this.



At least you would be replacing the swastika with the actual German insignia found on planes and vehicles.
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« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2019, 07:29:18 PM »
I believe that style of flag was only used by the German navy.

I would go for something like this.

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At least you would be replacing the swastika with the actual German insignia found on planes and vehicles.

Fair enough.  Thanks!

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Re: THAT Symbol
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2019, 01:50:02 AM »
Bloody silly EU rule for cry babies who need a safe space :old:

Anyone who flys Bosch planes is a wrong un anyway

They smell of fat sausage and leather underpants.

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Re: THAT Symbol
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2019, 03:53:25 AM »
Bloody silly EU rule for cry babies who need a safe space :old:

And whats even more outrageous: This rule is/was totally fictional!  :furious
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Re: THAT Symbol
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2019, 10:53:24 AM »
Its true it was on CNN
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Re: THAT Symbol
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2019, 11:25:19 AM »
On my RC FW190A8 I airbrushed a iron cross in place of the swastika, I didn't want to give the wrong impression at any flying field I might go to. It actually lends itself perfectly to either the 190 or 109. I think it would look good on any of the luftwaffe planes in my opinion. :cheers: :salute
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Re: THAT Symbol
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2019, 03:15:39 PM »
Bloody silly EU rule for cry babies who need a safe space :old:

Anyone who flys Bosch planes is a wrong un anyway

They smell of fat sausage and leather underpants.

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Re: THAT Symbol
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2019, 10:29:23 PM »
I have always wondered why the brewster had it on its side in the game. BTW you cant swing a dead cat in tibet without hitting it. I was shocked to see it in restaurants, temples even manhole covers.
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