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Offline Kingpin

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Re: Thoughts.
« Reply #270 on: October 13, 2019, 03:40:52 AM »
Many new players, and experienced players also, have contacted the trainers for training. They never complained about the difficulty.


Oh, yes they have.   I heard it.  I even said it.  Some of my first posts in the game were about that issue.  Several of my posts and discussions here since, as both a player and a trainer, have been about this.


Aces High has an excellent training staff and many helpful players in the TA.  An hour with a trainer can still be one of the most valuable hours ever spent in game.  However, the problem of retaining brand new players is not best solved in or by the Training Arena.

In my opinion, a huge improvement would be providing a simpler, more intuitive, and more modern interface with guided instruction so new players can successfully:

a) set up and operate their controllers
b) fly or drive something and
c) shoot something

all on their own, all in the first 10 minutes, without exiting the game...  before they leave permanently for something else.  That would be a start.

I hope that is the direction of HiTech's post here.
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Re: Thoughts.
« Reply #271 on: October 13, 2019, 04:23:15 AM »
Many players never have a chance to complain because they don't know how to communicate.    They're stuck on the runway firing their guns in the air.

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Re: Thoughts.
« Reply #272 on: October 13, 2019, 04:24:18 AM »
I have never come across a more closed, aggressive, militant group on a forum, or in game as the AH crowd. A new player, in almost every case, is greeted by getting repeatedly and easily killed to pad someone's score.

They see vitriolic exchanges constantly on open channel. They see no training options, no assistance.

This has always been the case,

Now, the potential new player sees all this, plus minimal numbers of predominantly insular players, all five of whom are doing their own thing.

An AI system, which could potentially be a good draw, and excellent training facility, which has 6g capable B29's with a turn rate and radius equalling the Spit they are invariably flying.

Then they see the 90's graphics, and the fact all around are options such as IL2 and DCS

Seriously, why would anyone, who stumbles onto AH today, find any compelling reasons to stay??

Don't hold anything back, bruh.   Lol. 

Some good points here.
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Re: Thoughts.
« Reply #273 on: October 13, 2019, 08:07:00 AM »
In Warbirds3 we had a "page a trainer" button.
At that time we had enough trainers at Euro/US TZ to help out most of the times.

Soemthing to consider would be to get a trainer schedule popup (if any) or mark the student with a *pilot so someone with knowledge can pick him/her up and help.
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Re: Thoughts.
« Reply #274 on: October 13, 2019, 08:21:26 AM »
In Warbirds3 we had a "page a trainer" button.
At that time we had enough trainers at Euro/US TZ to help out most of the times.

Soemthing to consider would be to get a trainer schedule popup (if any) or mark the student with a *pilot so someone with knowledge can pick him/her up and help.

Turns out, trainers are by appointment only


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Re: Thoughts.
« Reply #275 on: October 13, 2019, 09:37:09 AM »

Oh, yes they have.   I heard it.  I even said it.  Some of my first posts in the game were about that issue.  Several of my posts and discussions here since, as both a player and a trainer, have been about this.


You're talking about the difficulty of posting a training request on the forum? I don't recall that. Did you think I was referring to some other difficulty?

Edit: I checked your first posts. In 2010 in AHII you tried to use a Trainer's email that was inactive. Sorry about that. I don't consider that a current problem.  You were able to communicate without difficulty using the forum.
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Re: Thoughts.
« Reply #276 on: October 13, 2019, 09:44:17 AM »
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Seriously, why would anyone, who stumbles onto AH today, find any compelling reasons to stay??

Same reasons we all did. Best flight model, best controller setup, huge aircraft selection, huge maps, small maps, good community, frequent updates, responsive management, the best VR experience flight sim, now with free arenas, and the scenarios. Nobody else can do scenarios like AH.

Edit: And free training.   :aok
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Re: Thoughts.
« Reply #277 on: October 13, 2019, 10:26:44 AM »
as long as you make an appointment first


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Re: Thoughts.
« Reply #278 on: October 13, 2019, 10:30:40 AM »
Short wait times!

We'd only need 360 trainers to staff the TA 24/7.   :rofl

Unless we want to give more than one lesson at a time. Then we'd need more.   :old:
We could do it with less people by paying them.   :D
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Re: Thoughts.
« Reply #279 on: October 13, 2019, 10:49:22 AM »
Rule 4
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