New computer and sad reflection...

[fd ski]

Build new PC this weekend. 9700k 32gb 2070 super and NVM drive - i wanted to fly around in jets and my old 3570k with 16gb and 1080 just couldn't handle DCS.
( using Oculus Rift CV1 ).

New machine is smoking fast ( nvdm sure makes a difference in load time).

I doubled my already reasonable frame rates in AH - upwards of 90 now and it positively affected my gunnery. Seems that i can hit things now.

I decieded to see if Il2 load times would be reduced - as previously it was just way too long and FPS was low.
Game loaded really fast, FPS was 50+ and when i logged on to multiplayer - there was 200+ people playing ( evening euro time ) with over 70 on one of the server.
10 minutes earlier i logged off from AH and entire main arena was 70 folks.

This really saddens me. I didn't know IL2 overtook AH in popularity

[Vraciu]

Big maps.  Too many sides.  Diluted action.    It's a self-eating cycle. 


Gotta get some smaller maps in rotation to reverse the trend.    Even scenario maps now and then like the Pacific War stuff as an occasional change of pace would do wonders. 

[FLS]

It's good that so many people are still interested in WW2 air combat. 

Surprised that IL2 cut your FPS in half. I wonder how many IL2 VR players know that?

[Nefarious]

I recently started playing coop IL2 and I'm not seeing those numbers in prime time Eastern Time Zone. (9-10-11-12PM) I saw less than 6-7 people over several servers one night.

FSO can still draw 60-70 players per side, so it's still where it's at on Friday Nights.

[fd ski]

FLS - i think it was a slow CPU fault.

To give credit - AH performance was still stellar. I think it will run fine on slowest of machine.
I guess there is a gain/loss calculation on HTC side - better graphics = higher spec requirements...
Either way, IL2 does look amazing when flying in VR. Can't say much for other aspects as I haven't learned it yet.

Nefarious - maybe its a euro thing ?
 

[Pluto]

When I get home I can look at my IL2 settings. With the CV1 I was getting 89 most of the time flying around, in action it would jump around a little.  The load times were affecting a lot of people until one of the recent patches.


EDIT*   Thinking about it a bit more, It sounds like you have Asynchronous Spacewarp (ASW) enabled in oculus. I forgot to mention I have it disabled.  If you open the oculus debug tool you can disable it.  Here is a link if you want to read about what it does. 
https://developer.oculus.com/documentation/pcsdk/latest/concepts/asynchronous-spacewarp/

[Shuffler]

Build new PC this weekend. 9700k 32gb 2070 super and NVM drive - i wanted to fly around in jets and my old 3570k with 16gb and 1080 just couldn't handle DCS.
( using Oculus Rift CV1 ).

New machine is smoking fast ( nvdm sure makes a difference in load time).

I doubled my already reasonable frame rates in AH - upwards of 90 now and it positively affected my gunnery. Seems that i can hit things now.

I decieded to see if Il2 load times would be reduced - as previously it was just way too long and FPS was low.
Game loaded really fast, FPS was 50+ and when i logged on to multiplayer - there was 200+ people playing ( evening euro time ) with over 70 on one of the server.
10 minutes earlier i logged off from AH and entire main arena was 70 folks.

This really saddens me. I didn't know IL2 overtook AH in popularity

So they had the same number as AH... 70.

[Eagler]

AH3 is a much better experience in VR than IL2 is IMHO

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Eagler

[fd ski]

AH3 is a much better experience in VR than IL2 is IMHO

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Eagler

i agree, and i wish we had more people

[CptTrips]

Ask any PC flight-simmer and I'd bet 99.98% of them have played or know of IL2 and it's spin-offs. 

I'd bet that only about 5% have ever heard about Aces High.  Maybe only 2% have ever subscribed.

Il2 might have an edge in graphic effects (with the offsetting performance load), it has a nice damage model, etc, but I'd argue that the difference in exposure is almost totally due to the fact that is has a stand-alone single-player campaign/mission mode.

I believe there are several orders of magnitude more regular Joe's out there that just want a game they can fire up offline and play for an hour and pretend they are a WWII fighter pilot.  They might have an hour between putting the kids to bed and calling it a night because they have work tomorrow.  Most regular Joe's have no desire to put the time and effort it requires be competitive online against other players. 

They may dabble in it occasionally if it comes included in the game they bought, but they are not going to pay a monthly fee to compete against people who spend every waking hour obsessed with the game. 

I'd love to see HTC be able to access some of that other market someday.  (In addition, not instead of.)  If nothing else, it could provide a vector to increase visibility of Aces High.

$0.02.

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CptTrips

[Krupinski]

I recently started playing coop IL2 and I'm not seeing those numbers in prime time Eastern Time Zone. (9-10-11-12PM) I saw less than 6-7 people over several servers one night.

FSO can still draw 60-70 players per side, so it's still where it's at on Friday Nights.

Combat Box is frequently full during US east hours, click the top of the server pop. column, it will sort servers by most players.

So they had the same number as AH... 70.

70 is more than enough when there are only 2 sides, and the objectives aren't spread over hundreds of miles. 

[Shuffler]

Usually when I am on AH there are 110 or more on. Of course I am here in the US.

[CptTrips]

Usually when I am on AH there are 110 or more on. Of course I am here in the US.

yes, but about a year ago it was in the 180's regularly.

Last night I believe there were 180 people on when I logged in. Numbers are still climbing.

Numbers fluctuate, but it seems clear to me that there has been a steady average YOY decline over the last 10 years.

I want to do everything possible to turn that trend around, but we at least need to face the fact that there is a problem.

[flippz]

I love il2. Just hate there is no voice comms and I really need ddr4 for vr in there. Otherwise 2 sides three targets per country and bergota fighting arena. Also bombers aren’t OP in there and take actual damage. They will still get you but they have an actual damage model.

[guncrasher]

I love il2. Just hate there is no voice comms and I really need ddr4 for vr in there. Otherwise 2 sides three targets per country and bergota fighting arena. Also bombers aren’t OP in there and take actual damage. They will still get you but they have an actual damage model.

Only bomber that doesn't take damage is 999, rest of us noobs get killed by just about anything.


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