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Offline CptTrips

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Re: Two sides
« Reply #105 on: December 12, 2019, 12:39:49 PM »
:aok

Jeez, how often is this subj gonna come up?
Just as someone else stated, with only 2 sides the side loosing WILL
ultimately see a mass exodus to the winning side  :bolt:

Strawman. 

Why do you think the losing side in a 2-sided scenario would have more ability to switch to the winning side than the two losing sides switching to the winning side now in a 3-sided scenario?

It is not better or worse and there are plenty of mechanisms to handle both.




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Re: Two sides
« Reply #106 on: December 12, 2019, 12:43:09 PM »
Because of the length of time required to switch sides... 24 hrs right?
With 2 sides, that requirement is moot  :salute
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Re: Two sides
« Reply #107 on: December 12, 2019, 12:53:23 PM »
Because of the length of time required to switch sides... 24 hrs right?
With 2 sides, that requirement is moot  :salute

Strawman. 

Who says there wouldn't be the same time switch limitation?

And in BF they don't even bother.  You can switch any time you want as long as it doesn't imbalance the teams beyond a certain threshold.   At that point they tell you you can't switch at that time, and to try again later.

There is no difference in this regard between 2-side and 3-side scenarios.

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Re: Two sides
« Reply #108 on: December 12, 2019, 01:02:07 PM »
:aok

Jeez, how often is this subj gonna come up?
Just as someone else stated, with only 2 sides the side loosing WILL
ultimately see a mass exodus to the winning side  :bolt:

Nonsense.

But that's fine by me.   Gives me more people to shoot at.
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Re: Two sides
« Reply #109 on: December 12, 2019, 01:13:42 PM »
I can assure you of one thing, as action diminishes numbers will drop more and more.   People don't pay to be bored.  All of you denying this reality with snark and dismissal are whistling past the graveyard in deception to yourselves alone.

But you assume everybody likes the same kind of action you do.  And it's your way because we are all wrong.

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Re: Two sides
« Reply #110 on: December 12, 2019, 01:17:07 PM »
But you assume everybody likes the same kind of action you do.  And it's your way because we are all wrong.

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No action is no fun.   Yeah, there are some weirdos that like an empty arena but they're not enough to support a business. The numbers tell the tale.

You use the word "we" as if it were more than five or ten people.  Keep deluding yourself.   
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Re: Two sides
« Reply #111 on: December 12, 2019, 01:21:38 PM »
IMO, 2 sides wouldnt make it better.

One side would always have the higher #s. One side would typically have the better squads. You wouldn't be able to fight somewhere else to avoid fighting players you don't like in some cases. Having more sides is more fun to fight with and against. 

It's really a map issue. For example, on the huge donut looking map with oceans in-between the islands. #s late nights are very low, and one side is normally very low. This is because the map is created so that the 3rd side cannot Interupt the other 2 sides fighting, and therefore cannot partake in the fight.

I don't typically like Fighter towns because they defeat the purpose of the objective of winning the war. But the maps should create an opportunity for all sides to be able to fight each other without having to fly 5 sectors.

I will also point out that the majority of players in AH want fighter action, so the maps should benefit that. If you don't believe me. Notice how the 3rd side late at night is normally porkers and tankers trying to beef their stats with little to no opposition. This side typically has the lowest #s for a reason.

I really love the world map concept, but closer bases and smaller areas of fighting are the key.

Normally in AH, I find the biggest fights where there is a tank base in-between 2 fighter fields where you don't have to fly a sector to get to the fight.

Late nights, the farther the bases the slower the fights are. With low #s, people don't like to fly longer than 10 minutes to fight one or 2 guys.

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Re: Two sides
« Reply #112 on: December 12, 2019, 01:26:16 PM »
One side ALWAYS has the higher numbers.   Even with three sides.

It's a bogus argument.

Three sides has become dogma for some. 

Regardless, we are stuck with it so we need maps that work with lower numbers.
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Re: Two sides
« Reply #113 on: December 12, 2019, 01:33:38 PM »
One side ALWAYS has the higher numbers.   Even with three sides.

It's a bogus argument.

Three sides has become dogma for some. 

Regardless, we are stuck with it so we need maps that work with lower numbers.


yes, but with more than 100 players, the other side can off set the #s difference by taking away players to fight them on the other side.

We agree on the last point.
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Re: Two sides
« Reply #114 on: December 12, 2019, 02:14:32 PM »
No action is no fun.   Yeah, there are some weirdos that like an empty arena but they're not enough to support a business. The numbers tell the tale.

You use the word "we" as if it were more than five or ten people.  Keep deluding yourself.

Well remove the 5 or 10 weirdos and still doesn't leave you with 90 players that agree with you.

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« Reply #115 on: December 12, 2019, 02:25:57 PM »
Well remove the 5 or 10 weirdos and still doesn't leave you with 90 players that agree with you.

semp

You got data to back you up?  Because I have thousands of canceled subscriptions to back ME.   And that number grows each month.   


Pull your head out.  Being obtuse is not a virtue.
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Re: Two sides
« Reply #116 on: December 12, 2019, 02:28:23 PM »
You got data to back you up?  Because I have thousands of canceled subscriptions to back ME.

Didn't know it was required to submit a form to you when quitting the game.

Sorry about that.

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Re: Two sides
« Reply #117 on: December 12, 2019, 02:30:21 PM »
Didn't know it was required to submit a form to you when quitting the game.

Sorry about that.

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Apology accepted.   Don't let it happen again.
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Re: Two sides
« Reply #118 on: December 12, 2019, 02:39:21 PM »
I feel that the symptoms of this situation have been overlooked.


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Re: Two sides
« Reply #119 on: December 12, 2019, 02:54:44 PM »
Apology accepted.   Don't let it happen again.

You are funny, passing yourself as somebody that knows why thousand quit, doesn't make it true.

As for being obtuse, well I'm not the one pushing a 2 sided arena after being told no so many times.

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