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Offline Mister Fork

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Another 737 down
« on: January 08, 2020, 03:38:35 PM »
A 737-800 went down just outside of Tehran last night.  Looking at the video of the airplane falling (mid-way through CNN's brief) it's on fire in a big way. 1/3 of the passengers were Canadian.

This was not a mechanical issue - it was on FIRE as it was falling from a catastrophic incident.  No issues raised, no emergency calls, just 'poof' - loss of data. 

Guessing from the video and my own military experience, it looks like it was shot down.  Some of the still images from today at the crash site I can see parts with 'small holes' - punching in...not out. Some on the tail section, some on an engine shroud, some parts look like it was hit with a shotgun at close range. 

It could just be post-crash damage as I'm not a crash investigation expert. But, seeing images from the crash in Ukraine and what I've seen personally from battlefields, it raises a lot of questions.  Hopefully, we'll know more soon.

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Re: Another 737 down
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2020, 03:51:09 PM »
Found not far from the crash site.



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Re: Another 737 down
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2020, 04:10:25 PM »
Many rumors that I've been reading are that it was shot down.

A. Who was in the plane.
B. The timing is very suspect.
C. The location is very suspect.
D. The location at was flying to is very suspect.
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Re: Another 737 down
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2020, 04:26:58 PM »
I blame Boeing.  :old:
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Re: Another 737 down
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2020, 04:57:22 PM »
Quote from: Vraciu on January 08, 2020, 04:26:58 PM
I blame Boeing.  :old:

 :bhead Ya many will. Since the NTSB will again not be allowed to investigate, I will treat all official reports as crap.
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Re: Another 737 down
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2020, 05:30:42 PM »
I'm certain that was an accidental shoot down. The missiles fired at Irag were all off target to avoid reprisals while putting on a show for the home audience, they wouldn't have screwed that up on purpose.
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Re: Another 737 down
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2020, 05:32:20 PM »
Quote from: Mister Fork on January 08, 2020, 03:51:09 PM
Found not far from the crash site.

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Looks like the nose of a TOR-M1, if you google 9M331 nose you'll find images in the net which show it quite clearly (and obviously the nose cone has survived the explosion).
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Re: Another 737 down
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2020, 05:40:30 PM »
Quote from: Busher on January 08, 2020, 04:57:22 PM
:bhead Ya many will. Since the NTSB will again not be allowed to investigate, I will treat all official reports as crap.

The airline didn't buy the optional flare/chaff dispenser system.   Boeing puts profits over people because they didn't give it away for free.   :old:
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Re: Another 737 down
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2020, 06:27:45 PM »
Quote from: Vraciu on January 08, 2020, 05:40:30 PM
The airline didn't buy the optional flare/chaff dispenser system.   Boeing puts profits over people because they didn't give it away for free.   :old:

that's the problem with third world pilots.  a real pilot would have landed that plane.

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Re: Another 737 down
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2020, 06:36:37 PM »
Seriously Gents, with the Middle East climate as it is, does anyone really believe that we'll ever get any truth that hasn't been soured by politics.
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Re: Another 737 down
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2020, 06:39:20 PM »
Well tbh the iranians don't need the NTSB or Boeing to investigate, they already know they shot it down.
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Re: Another 737 down
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2020, 06:41:04 PM »
My question is. Why weren't all planes grounded? Missiles going off and the plane happens to be taking off? Just happen to hit the plane as its taking off. Seems like a high margin of error for a missile to accidentally hit a plane. Why would they risk taking off if missiles are that close to the airport?
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Re: Another 737 down
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2020, 06:52:58 PM »
Quote from: guncrasher on January 08, 2020, 06:27:45 PM
that's the problem with third world pilots.  a real pilot would have landed that plane.

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A real pilot wouldn’t fly there in the first place. 

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Re: Another 737 down
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2020, 07:17:49 PM »
Quote from: guncrasher on January 08, 2020, 06:27:45 PM
that's the problem with third world pilots.  a real pilot would have landed that plane.


Heh.

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Re: Another 737 down
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2020, 07:21:39 PM »
Quote from: DmonSlyr on January 08, 2020, 06:41:04 PM
My question is. Why weren't all planes grounded? Missiles going off and the plane happens to be taking off? Just happen to hit the plane as its taking off. Seems like a high margin of error for a missile to accidentally hit a plane. Why would they risk taking off if missiles are that close to the airport?

Dude it's Iran...
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