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Offline Oldman731

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Re: Dark Man Cometh???
« Reply #1260 on: March 18, 2020, 07:54:56 PM »
Shuffler and Guncrasher. Could you please read the request I posted to Hungry and Arlo. We're all facing a world crisis and it's way beyond the time that all people of all nations should be pulling in the same direction.


Agreed.  In fact, permit me to expand the list of people who should move their discussions to a non-AH venue.  Please...?

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Re: Dark Man Cometh???
« Reply #1261 on: March 18, 2020, 07:58:03 PM »
While I understand where you're coming from FT, we have an opportunity to be bigger than this. We even have the opportunity to let those that insult our intelligence, honor, compassion and patriotism be bigger. Lets take it.  :)

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Re: Dark Man Cometh???
« Reply #1262 on: March 18, 2020, 08:18:18 PM »
While I understand where you're coming from FT, we have an opportunity to be bigger than this. We even have the opportunity to let those that insult our intelligence, honor, compassion and patriotism be bigger. Lets take it.  :)

Very true my friend. Sometimes when you come across simple minds they only understand things when you speak in a way they can understand.

Personally it’s nice the stores have starting limiting quantities on items purchased so slow down the horde mentality.

Couldn’t find a scrap of chicken the other day when I went shopping. I did find the soap and bread thankfully. Luckily I have a couple of whole chickens still so no biggie but I wanted some more chicken boobs. None to be found other then the prebreaded chicken wing crap.


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Re: Dark Man Cometh???
« Reply #1263 on: March 18, 2020, 08:19:29 PM »
Its not the CDC. Its the mandates, restrictions and cut backs from on high.

The CDC budget is higher under the current administration:



Also, even if there were cuts (which ^--- see above), an organization with a budget of many $billions per year and a staff of over 10,000 people has plenty of money and people to roll out a PCR test.

A PCR test is a simple, standard thing to design and roll out.  Biotech labs design and run PCR tests all the time.

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« Reply #1264 on: March 18, 2020, 08:22:44 PM »
Very true my friend. Sometimes when you come across simple minds they only understand things when you speak in a way they can understand.

Personally it’s nice the stores have starting limiting quantities on items purchased so slow down the horde mentality.

Couldn’t find a scrap of chicken the other day when I went shopping. I did find the soap and bread thankfully. Luckily I have a couple of whole chickens still so no biggie but I wanted some more chicken boobs. None to be found other then the prebreaded chicken wing crap.

We kinda wisened up a year back and invested in a small freezer chest (an uncommon appliance in a small apartment). While it wasn't full at the start of the pandemic the amount in it has served us well (yup, our supermarkets were hit about as hard as anywhere, I reckon. We're looking forward to restocking it.

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Re: Dark Man Cometh???
« Reply #1265 on: March 18, 2020, 08:24:48 PM »
The CDC budget is higher under the current administration:

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Also, even if there were cuts (which ^--- see above), an organization with a budget of many $billions per year and a staff of over 10,000 people has plenty of money and people to roll out a PCR test.

A PCR test is a simple, standard thing to design and roll out.  Biotech labs design and run PCR tests all the time.

https://thehill.com/policy/finance/486817-trump-budget-chief-holds-firm-on-cdc-cuts-amid-virus-outbreak

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Re: Dark Man Cometh???
« Reply #1266 on: March 18, 2020, 08:47:51 PM »
The CDC lists their budgets on their website. Why go to other sites when you can get the source.

https://www.cdc.gov/budget

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Re: Dark Man Cometh???
« Reply #1267 on: March 18, 2020, 09:23:39 PM »
Weak.
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Re: Dark Man Cometh???
« Reply #1268 on: March 18, 2020, 10:54:52 PM »
I'm an American.  i don't stand with him shuffler.  and no i don't hate Americans or our nation. just disagree with you.

so you are wrong when saying stand up for this or that or you hate our country.


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Re: Dark Man Cometh???
« Reply #1269 on: March 18, 2020, 11:02:23 PM »
Disagreeing is fine. Socialism/communism is not. Liberals have swung so far into that dark hole.... I do not think they can extracted themselves. They have too many that have never seen what it does to every country that tried it.

have friend that are hard core republics they worship him.  make fun of socialism.  4 out of 6 were sent home.   full pay, their comments,  gonna milk this as long as i can.  while some of their coworkers are at work.  Republicans socialist ay their best.


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Re: Dark Man Cometh???
« Reply #1270 on: March 18, 2020, 11:20:16 PM »
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/486817-trump-budget-chief-holds-firm-on-cdc-cuts-amid-virus-outbreak

You are quoting a recommendation for lower budget -- in the future.

That has -- absolutely nothing, zero -- to do with the budget up to this point.  Not unless future actions can travel back in time to affect our past.

Also, Presidents can (and do) give opinions, but they do not make budgets.  Congress has the power to do that, as it sees fit.

It is totally fake and pure propaganda that anyone cut funding to the CDC and caused trouble getting out the PCR test.

Even so, regardless, it is cheap, fast, and easy to roll out a PCR test.  I'll do it for you for even less than $1.5 billion.   :aok

Anyway, who says the best budget for CDC is $X billion per year and not $Y billion?  You?  Me?  Is the correct answer "as much as previous administration year 2, plus $3 billion"?
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Re: Dark Man Cometh???
« Reply #1271 on: March 18, 2020, 11:30:04 PM »
The CDC lists their budgets on their website. Why go to other sites when you can get the source.

https://www.cdc.gov/budget

Have you looked at what is there?

It's not quickly apparent where to extract a single number as "CDC budget" (the money they actually got for the year, in total) from the docs they provide.  There are "budget request" amounts, "budgetary authority" amounts, "budgetary authority" amount plus PPHF's, that plus "PHS Evaluation Transfer", etc.  It's a morass of govspeak.
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Re: Dark Man Cometh???
« Reply #1272 on: March 19, 2020, 12:27:18 AM »


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Accelerating.

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Re: Dark Man Cometh???
« Reply #1273 on: March 19, 2020, 03:09:42 AM »
Disagreeing is fine. Socialism/communism is not. Liberals have swung so far into that dark hole.... I do not think they can extracted themselves. They have too many that have never seen what it does to every country that tried it.
Read the Book of Acts in the Bible. God instructed all the Christians to pool their money together and killed a husband and wife for hiding some of their money. That means God is a socialist. I'm not, but I believe in helping others, despite the reason they need it. If you say "They're not getting mine!" YOU'RE NOT A CHRISTIAN.
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Re: Dark Man Cometh???
« Reply #1274 on: March 19, 2020, 03:41:31 AM »
I help others all the time. That is not socialism.


Socialism is taking from those that do and giving to those that do not. So soon no one does because... well why when you can just sit while others support you. That is till everyone is pretty much doing the same. Then there is no ability to better yourself, no reason to work harder or even work.
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