Covid 19 Prevention discussion ONLY

[guncrasher]

This is sort of interesting.  Looks as if the toilet paper shortage may NOT be going away.   

https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/the-truth-about-the-toilet-paper-shortage-81759813784

that is true, found everything on my grocery list, except for paper towels and tp. tp is like at the bottom of the list.


semp

[Shuffler]

I stopped by and picked up paper towels and toilet paper for employees the last two days in a row. Our stores have had paper for a while..... just not filled up.

[Eagler]

If half of the sterilization methods described here are required to keep this thing at bay then we are toast

Bleach milk for how long? Yeah  right...

There is not half the ppl in the US that will take half the extreme measures listed here

That crap works maybe in Asia as they are mainly only Asians and are on average slightly more educated and disciplined than the average American

Not to mention places like NK and China where you just disappear if you don't abide by the rules set out by your commie gov

America is very different in so many ways  - not all of them good in times like this

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Eagler

[icepac]

Just like in the main arena, most can't spell "hoard".

[CptTrips]

4th day that numbers have not breached the last high (Apr 4).  I think we are seeing evidence that the quarantine is working.  These numbers look like they are topping out.
Reduction in Deaths, sadly, will lag.  There is a lot of sick people already in the pipeline. 

But the first step it to stop digging the hole you are trying to get out of.



And this is even while our testing continues to ramp up so it is probably even better than it looks.

[SysError]

And this is even while our testing continues to ramp up so it is probably even better than it looks.

Federal testing sites and any federal funding for testing will stop on Friday.

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/08/829955099/federal-support-for-coronavirus-testing-sites-end-as-peak-nears

It would be reasonable see a drop in the number of new reported daily cases from this weekend forward.


To me this means that I will have to judge the level of the threat based on other sources.  (And I am the first to say that I am not sure what that means yet.)

[CptTrips]

Federal testing sites and any federal funding for testing will stop on Friday.

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/08/829955099/federal-support-for-coronavirus-testing-sites-end-as-peak-nears

It would be reasonable see a drop in the number of new reported daily cases from this weekend forward.


To me this means that I will have to judge the level of the threat based on other sources.  (And I am the first to say that I am not sure what that means yet.)

Not really.  The CBTS were only intended to be a temporary stop gap measure and now testing is transitioning to state level management.  Nobody is reducing testing.  They are just changing who is running it.

A spokesperson for the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services tells NPR, "Many of the Community-Based Testing Sites (CBTS) are not closing, but rather transitioning to state-managed sites on or about April 10."

The agency and a spokesperson for FEMA say the CBTS program originally included 41 sites. It was intended as a stop-gap to bring testing to critical locations, especially for health care facility workers and first responders.

[hitech]

A stat I would like to see is what percentage of people put on  a ventilator recover?

HiTech

[Copprhed]

A stat I would like to see is what percentage of people put on  a ventilator recover?

HiTech

It has been said that the number is lower the longer a ventilator is used.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/04/08/coronavirus-cases-ventilators-covid-19/2950167001/

[Eagler]

It also sounds like it is lower if you are African American or obese or if you smoke  or if.....

The lack of details is getting old...

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Eagler

[100Coogn]

A stat I would like to see is what percentage of people put on  a ventilator recover?

HiTech

Was watching NBC the other night and Dr. Anthony Fauci said only about 20% of people on ventilators recover.

Coogan

[SysError]

Not really.  The CBTS were only intended to be a temporary stop gap measure and now testing is transitioning to state level management.  Nobody is reducing testing.  They are just changing who is running it.

I was glad to see this today:

"In Reversal, Federal Support For Coronavirus Testing Sites Continues"

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/09/830805038/in-reversal-federal-support-for-coronavirus-testing-sites-continues

[Puma44]

Was watching NBC the other night and Dr. Anthony Fauci said only about 20% of people on ventilators recover.

Coogan

Curious as to what percentage of COVID patients require ventilators.  Of those who do, how many have underlying medical conditions.

[NatCigg]

reports i read are 20% need hospital. of that half need oxygen, half of that need the tube.  so the answer is around 5%.  and around 80% of that 5% die. so that puts the death rate around 4%.

[NatCigg]

reports today are 90% hospitalized had co morbidity. 50 hypertension, 50 obesity, 40 chronic lung disease, 30 diabetes, 30 cardiovascular disease.