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Re: Engine settings
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2020, 05:50:55 AM »
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Re: Engine settings
« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2020, 10:09:37 AM »
One of those old nagging questions from a non-pilot. What is the diff between rpm and throttle in this game? Every time Im asked to adjust manifold pres in a 17 I adjust throttle. Am I doing this wrong?

Throttle is identical to the gas pedal on your car, when you press it a butter fly valve opens and lets more air into the engine, creating more power. Unlike a car a plane has a gauge that measures the pressure inside the intake manifold. This is called the Manifold pressure gauge. In American planes it is measured in Inches of mercury just like a barometer. If the plane does not have a super/tubo charger the max manifold pressure will be slightly less the the current barometric pressure.

In a car your rpm is tied to the wheel speed via transmission. So when you change gear you can have the same gas pedal position and power but different  RPMs.

A plane basically has an infinite number of gears by changing the pitch of the propeller. It has a fly ball governor  that in most planes feeds oil to the prop to control its pitch (More when to fast less when to slow) and hence maintains a constant RPM. Your rpm control set the desired RPM for the governor to maintain. So in a sense the RPM control is very much like a gear shift lever.

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Re: Engine settings
« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2020, 04:53:42 AM »
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Re: Engine settings
« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2020, 09:16:03 PM »
Thanks, Hitech.  Related question:  Is prop feathering modeled for planes that have featherable props?
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Re: Engine settings
« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2020, 09:38:51 PM »
One of those old nagging questions from a non-pilot. What is the diff between rpm and throttle in this game? Every time Im asked to adjust manifold pres in a 17 I adjust throttle. Am I doing this wrong?

use the throttle to bring rpm down.  I have no experience whatsoever in flying a real airplane.   the plus/minus thing annoy the heck out of me.


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Re: Engine settings
« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2020, 10:27:36 AM »
use the throttle to bring rpm down.  I have no experience whatsoever in flying a real airplane.   the plus/minus thing annoy the heck out of me.


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This is not correct, throttle does not changed rpm on most of our airplanes. All WWI airplanes have fixed pitch and hence the throttle will change rpm.

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Re: Engine settings
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Re: Engine settings
« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2020, 11:00:50 AM »
Today I learned a new term .... 'over square.'

https://www.experimentalaircraft.info/flight-planning/aircraft-engine.php

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The term comes where the normal slang is to say I cruise at 24  squared I.E. 24 Inches 2400 rpm. Its common practice to always decrease manifold pressure before decreasing rpm, and conversely increase rpm before increasing manifold pressure. This is to make sure you don't over torque the engine.  Hence the slang Over Square for more manifold pressure then rpm.

There are many similar discussions regarding lean of peek.

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Re: Engine settings
« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2020, 01:43:13 PM »
Some of the German aircraft, such as the 110 show IoM on the E6B when the Gauge is in ata. :joystick:
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Re: Engine settings
« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2020, 07:23:31 PM »
Today I learned a new term .... 'over square.'

https://www.experimentalaircraft.info/flight-planning/aircraft-engine.php

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After reading the article, Initially I thought he was referring to Non-Turbo charged engines. With his reference to the P38 as well as Manifold Pressures in the low 30s I think you have to infer he is talking about turbo charged engines.

Not sure if HT thought the same thing or not, but I have never read anything from a manufacturers point of view - that running a Non Turbo charged engine with a higher MP than RPM (Over Square) has ever been a good idea. Turbo Charged it’s common practice and the setting are in the POH.

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Re: Engine settings
« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2020, 08:56:46 PM »
This is not correct, throttle does not changed rpm on most of our airplanes. All WWI airplanes have fixed pitch and hence the throttle will change rpm.

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i don't understand what you wrote as i know nothing about engines.  but i believe the question was how to slow down the plane so he can keep up. simpler way is throttle. that's what i do anyway.


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